"The Greater Idaho movement" :data-laughing:

Mike McCarter, center, has galvanized a coalition of 8 counties to secede from Oregon, moving into Idaho, where they would find more amenable politics.Courtesy of Greater Idaho, greateridaho.org.

The Greater Idaho movement seeks to redraw state boundaries so rural Oregon can join Idaho.

Idaho's House voted in favor of exploring the move after 11 Oregon counties did the same.

Moving the state boundary would require the approval of Oregon, Idaho, and the U.S. Congress.

The Greater Idaho movement — a conservative effort to have eastern Oregon secede from the blue state and join Idaho — got a major nod of support last week from lawmakers in the red state.

  • Sephitard9001 [he/him]
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    2 years ago

    Dems: We can't improve anything because the parliamentarian said so

    Reps: redrawing state lines

    • zifnab25 [he/him, any]
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      2 years ago

      Moving the state boundary would require the approval of Oregon, Idaho, and the U.S. Congress.

      Not holding my breath on this.

      The Greater Idaho movement — a conservative effort to have eastern Oregon secede from the blue state and join Idaho — got a major nod of support last week from lawmakers in the red state.

      This isn't even as cool as straight secessionism. Its just a weird legalist land-grab that nobody can actually execute on. At best, you're going to see another round of Bundy Rancher shit, possibly with more sitting state senators involved this time around.

      • Sephitard9001 [he/him]
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        2 years ago

        I don't expect it to work but they're trying almost everything they can legally and illegally to try and deliver results to their base's perceived interests. We all know they're full of shit but Dems don't even try one quarter as hard to fuck over Reps

        • zifnab25 [he/him, any]
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          2 years ago

          they’re trying almost everything they can legally and illegally to try

          Eh. They're making a lot of mouth noises and leading their local communities around by the nose. In another two years, they'll be screaming about how the mean old Idaho Supreme Court is full of Woke Transgender Millennials who have prevented them from seizing every Waffle House west of Hwy 201. They'll raise a bunch of money on this shit, do nothing, wait for people to get incredibly mad, and then act shocked when some random family of vacationers gets lynched over the hysteria.

          • JoeByeThen [he/him, they/them]
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            2 years ago

            They’ll raise a bunch of money on this shit, do nothing, wait for people to get incredibly mad, and then act shocked when some random family of vacationers gets lynched over the hysteria.

            they’re trying almost everything they can legally and illegally to try and deliver results to their base’s perceived interests.

            :same-picture:

          • regul [any]
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            2 years ago

            There are no Waffle Houses in Oregon or Idaho.

  • THC
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    1 year ago

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  • regul [any]
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    2 years ago

    I think that when the rumblings of this started the Daily Show did a pretty good bit about it. The response out of Salem was basically, "If you pay us for all the state-owned assets we'd be losing from this trade, then we can talk". It's something on the order of trillions of dollars.

    • hahafuck [they/them]
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      2 years ago

      Idaho could get a loan from the federal government. Lets get this done

  • jack [he/him, comrade/them]
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    2 years ago

    Literally surrendering political power to your opponents by doing this. Larger states by population are proportionately weaker on the national stage.

        • Antoine_St_Hexubeary [none/use name]
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          2 years ago

          If Oregon's entire 2nd congressional district moves to Idaho (and that seems to be quite close to what the Greater Idaho Movement is proposing) then that's pretty much an automatic EC vote loss for OR and gain for ID.

  • lascaux [he/him]
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    2 years ago

    being a revanchist for fucking idaho is so funny

  • iridaniotter [she/her]
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    2 years ago

    You're all laughing but when America collapses, the Empire of Great Idaho will be the largest country among its remnants. :shrug-outta-hecks:

  • TheModerateTankie [any]
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    2 years ago

    We should just split every state up until we have a bunch of states the population size of wyoming.

  • piaoliang [none/use name]
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    2 years ago

    Same with northern California. They get treated like shit by Sacremento and if you're not in LA or SF you might as well not exist. There's a secession movement there, too, but I haven't been keeping track of it.

    • pumpchilienthusiast [comrade/them, any]
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      2 years ago

      most of the red counties in california (much like the red states) get much more back from Sacramento than they put in, they just can't seem to understand why a county of 8,000 people shouldn't get as much money as a county of 9.8 million and they're still butthurt that california did away with the incredibly undemocratic state senate apportionment (apportioned by county) in the 1960s to something more democratic (population-based).

      • CarmineCatboy [he/him]
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        2 years ago

        uhh sweaty because this is a republic and not a democracy?? why should sacramento have any say on the counties it pays for if it isn't a mom and pop landlord company?

    • regul [any]
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      2 years ago

      "get treated like shit" are told they can't dam all the rivers or cut down all the forests

      • pumpchilienthusiast [comrade/them, any]
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        2 years ago

        Also, they are told that maybe they should begin to think about reconsidering building (or rebuilding) subdivisions in bone-dry forests full of fuel, but if you really want to thats's fine we'll keep subsidizing you

        • Frank [he/him, he/him]
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          2 years ago

          Personal property rights need to be abolished so we can force all these people in to denser, more sustainable cities. Half the reason it's impossible to do anything in this country is that every asshole with a deed can hold up infrastructure projects for years with lawsuits if it crosses their land. Unless they're black, of course, in which case all the institutional barriers will be waived to put the highway through.

  • infuziSporg [e/em/eir]
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    2 years ago

    There are lots of states with internal pressures that could wrench them apart as the federal government gets weaker.