https://www.cnn.com/2023/04/01/europe/italian-government-penalize-english-words-intl/index.html

  • Oso_Rojo [he/him, they/them]
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    2 years ago

    If you use the English word “email” instead of the Italian “pizza electronica” then you’re sent straight to il carcere

  • SerLava [he/him]
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    2 years ago

    :lenin-sure: it's a cover to arrest ethnic minorities

    • hexaflexagonbear [he/him]
      hexagon
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      2 years ago

      It probably works well for harassing young people too. Just hitting all of the white boomer grievances.

  • FuckYourselfEndless [ze/hir]
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    2 years ago

    I approve 'cause it's stupid these people can't translate English terms into their own languages. Like, Germans using "upvote" on Reddit in otherwise German comments is just embarrassing.

    • chickentendrils [any, comrade/them]
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      2 years ago

      It is pretty prevalent, especially the more esoteric the technical topic. Like I've heard Chinese speakers just switch to full English for a brief exchange to talk about eg process hollowing, hypervisors, kernel patching protection - I assume there are localized terms but they were probably created later, by some language body/authority, and haven't caught on yet.

  • Rojo27 [he/him]
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    2 years ago

    In a just world "Anglomania" would be a way to describe :cracker: :brainworms:

    • Kuori [she/her]
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      2 years ago

      multiple soviet tactical posting teams are en route to claim anglomania for the revolution

  • Awoo [she/her]
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    2 years ago

    The fascists are the ones doing it but "anglomania" is fucking good.

  • doublepepperoni [none/use name]
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    2 years ago

    Giorgia Meloni will never not sound like the name of a character in some ZAZ comedy flick or a bawdy British sitcom

    • nohaybanda [he/him]
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      2 years ago

      bawdy British sitcom

      If you told me that's a character from 'Allo 'Allo, I'd definitely lose sleep trying to remember her

        • LeninWalksTheWorld [any]
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          2 years ago

          yeah but also with globalization and international trade being more common than ever before humanity has a need for a globally common business and diplomatic language, and it seems like that will evenually be English thanks to the historical hegemony of the British Empire and now the USA.

          It's not like the Italian language is being exterminated right now like what happened to other languages due to colonialism. This is just nationalists coping with their country being irrelevant.

  • eatmyass
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    1 year ago

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  • TraschcanOfIdeology [they/them, comrade/them]
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    2 years ago

    Having dealt with :anti-italian-action: first hand, it is crazy how many anglicisms (and gallicisms) they use in everyday parlance, even in government stuff where the rest of the verbiage might as well be written by Petrarca. Even when a word has an easy Italian translation or it's just a lazy portmanteau away, they just use the English word for the thing instead, while pronouncingly so badly it becomes unrecognizable. It makes things easier because sometimes i forget the Italian word for something and i'll just fill with the english equivalent, but it is shocking.

    • hexaflexagonbear [he/him]
      hexagon
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      2 years ago

      It's the same everywhere in Europe. In eastern Europe you can literally tell who grew up abroad speaking their native tongue only at home because they use too few English words lol.

      • TraschcanOfIdeology [they/them, comrade/them]
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        2 years ago

        Lmao that is a weird thing to have happen. In my experience Spaniards really resist using english words, or even with english origin. They refuse to use "computadora" even though it has a spanish etymology, calling computers "ordenadores". On the other hand, back home the only people interspersing conversation with english words are yuppies who think they're cooler for confusing others with their random english.

    • gobble_ghoul [he/him]
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      2 years ago

      The ghost of Old English is haunting Italians for replacing two-thirds of its vocabulary with Latinate words.

  • anaesidemus [he/him]
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    2 years ago

    Linguistic purism, or protectionism if you want to sound better, is cool and good as a standalone thing but its intrinsically linked to nationalism and therefore fascism.

    Making your own versions of English loanwords is hard, they have to be exceptionally good or people won't use them.

    A committee, like in the news story, is not enough. You need a whole institution for this.

    • ProxyTheAwesome [comrade/them]
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      2 years ago

      The linguistic colonization is a byproduct and symptom of the actual problem, a highly dominant anglo culture due to a highly dominant anglo financialized economy and military empire. End the empire and economic domination, you will end the cultural engine that outproduces the rest of the world, and therefore will end linguistic colonization due to oppressive overproduction of culture

      Basically we need to put an end to the superstructure of “content” and “media” being monopolized by the anglos

      • anaesidemus [he/him]
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        2 years ago

        this is true, i was overly exaggerating, not all nationalism is fascist in nature, but most? fascist movements are nationalists, or profess to be at least.