I know Americans lack critical thinking skills, but surely they didn't just learn about the concept of masks in 2020

  • Tankiedesantski [he/him]
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    2 years ago

    I know Americans lack critical thinking skills

    Americans and Westoids in general loooooove to talk shit about East Asian education systems and how they don't "teach critical thinking". Not only do Westoids lack critical thinking skills, but they think they are the best critical thinkers on the fucking planet.

    Most anti-maskers I've seen or met are always incredibly self confident about their vaunted "critical thinking" skills.

      • FuckYourselfEndless [ze/hir]
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        2 years ago

        Not even that. Their definition is just circular. If they think it it must be critical thinking because critical thinking is good snd they're good therefore all their thoughts must be critical thought. You can't find an outspoken conservative who will say "I don't know" about something rather than bullshit you.

      • Changeling [it/its]
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        2 years ago

        We live in a cult-based society and “critical thinking” is a standin for the fact that neoliberal capital allows you to criticize them in ways that make them more money. It’s not about having a skillset. It’s about having a “Freedom”

        • UmbraVivi [he/him, she/her]
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          2 years ago

          While I agree with both the cult-based society argument and the "neoliberal capital commodifies our criticism of them" argument too, I don't think the way reactionaries tend to use the term "critical thinking" is linked to either of those, at least from what I've seen.

          I think it's more like what the other reply said, that the term of is used by capital-R rationals who think "I am a critical thinker, therefore all my thoughts are critical thinking and therefore I am the arbiter of objective truth and reason."

          I have not seen it used much in a systemic context.

          • Changeling [it/its]
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            2 years ago

            Oh yeah I don’t think they consciously mean it that way. It’s more like the reason for the distortion is that need to extol the freedoms of capitalism while still artificially limiting thought. I think the Rationalist movement is a cultural outgrowth of these more systemic methods of capitalist information control.

    • SerLava [he/him]
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      2 years ago

      I still remember the moment in like 7th grade when I realized my teachers had been repeating over and over again for 4 or 5 years that they were teaching us critical thinking and none of them had ever elaborated or even explained what that means

    • VILenin [he/him]M
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      2 years ago

      It’s not so much the “thinking” part as it is the “critical” part. Literally nothing more than spiteful contrarianism

      • Goblinmancer [any]
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        2 years ago

        :freeze-peach: I think we should not rebuild the burnt down school.

  • Frank [he/him, he/him]
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    2 years ago

    Reading some of the comments reminds me of brow-beating the teenagers (and some thirty year olds) on the landscaping crews I was leading to wear their PPE. The (not) funny thing is that the younger folks were a lot easier to convince to take safety seriously than some of the older workers. I've heard it said that two kinds of people get hurt in labor jobs - New workers who don't know better, and experienced workers who did know better but got sloppy.

  • Changeling [it/its]
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    2 years ago

    surely they didn’t just learn about the concept of masks in 2020

    All clothing exists solely to signal group membership. Scrubs and a mask? That’s just to let people know you’re a doctor! Hard hat and a mask? That’s just to let people know you work in a factory! But we all know that a mask isn’t part of a park ranger’s uniform, so why would they wear one?!

    • TreadOnMe [none/use name]
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      2 years ago

      All clothing exists to indicate political and class status, which is why it was such a 'mind-blown' moment when tech CEO's would just wear normal cloths.

      They don't really do that any more as they are all wrapped up in their own weird esoteric fashion now, where only the programmers don't exactly have a dress code, but it's a weird thing to watch.

  • WeedReference420 [he/him, they/them]
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    2 years ago

    I've straight up seen anti maskers talk about how you'd run out of oxygen and risk dying from wearing a mask over your nose and mouth for more than 15 minutes, seemingly completely forgetting about surgeons/dentists, painters, old timey Wild West bandits etc

      • MemesAreTheory [he/him, any]
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        2 years ago

        Unfortunately, that is most human thinking in general. That's why good education and cultural institutions that can overcome those cognitive biases, like science broadly speaking, are so important. It's okay to be shitty post-hoc reasoners (#bornthisway), we are just meat with electricity running through it after all, but we can aspire to better than celebrating and entrenching power in that kind of ignorance.

    • macabrett
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      2 years ago

      Do the same people think cats suffocate when they nap under blankets?

  • sammer510 [none/use name]
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    2 years ago

    I still mask up at work solely because I'm chronically introverted and I like being able to hide my face. I'm never taking it off. Masks are great

    • GenderIsOpSec [she/her]
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      2 years ago

      aint never takin' that shit off, they'll have to tear it from my cold dead hands. I absolutely love the shield it gives me :comfy:

  • GenderIsOpSec [she/her]
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    2 years ago

    He sounds like how I imagine all chuds sound like tbh

    :worker:: "I'm grinding the metal."

    :rage-cry: "What does that ha- ohh."

    :soviet-chad: "Get out of my face."

    :scared-fash: "ok."

    :data-laughing:

  • ButtBidet [he/him]
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    2 years ago

    Less cool story, but I had a random person give me the WORST look in the shop today when I was wearing my N95.

    • Kuori [she/her]
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      2 years ago

      :yea: i get this all the time, though i can never tell when it's the mask and when it's the obvious transness

      shit sucks either way

      • ButtBidet [he/him]
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        2 years ago

        Anti maskers and transphobes are both pretty revolting. Either way that person is garbage to me. Sorry comrade. :meow-hug:

        • Kuori [she/her]
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          2 years ago

          that's exactly the viewpoint i take. either they wanna kill me or they're at least cool with the idea

          and same to you comrade! :soviet-heart: it's ridiculous that people are fucking like this

  • redthebaron [he/him]
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    2 years ago

    i will give the hog this he disengaged so hard when he noticed he fucked up

  • sooper_dooper_roofer [none/use name]
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    2 years ago

    global warming will create more forest fires which these morons will breathe in because wearing a mask is gay and liberal

    accidentally based