• hollowmines [he/him]
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    I thought the first couple seasons were just OK but since Hader took over as director it's been more about destabilizing stylistic flourishes + absurd tangents than just an antihero plot or whatever and that's been much more enjoyable for me

    Very funny to see it being accused of being marine/army apologia. Barry is presented as a deluded, self-regarding, spineless and intellectually stunted psychopath who frequently lies about himself and his military service, and in a recent episode literally toggles between Christian podcasts until he finds the one that excuses murder so he can feel OK about killing someone.

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        • Commiejones [comrade/them, he/him]
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          2 years ago

          Kinda an understatement. Almost every vet in the show is totally fucked in the head psychopath.

          spoiler

          except one dude who was in IT or motor pool or something and another who is a FBI agent willing to let a mass murder get away because they served together. so never mind hes totally fucked in the head too.

    • GorbinOutOverHere [comrade/them]
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      2 years ago

      Very funny to see it being accused of being marine/army apologia

      is someone doing that?? jfc and I had my media literacy questioned today 🙄

  • AndyCapps [he/him]
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    It's consistently funny, well directed and full of wonderful performances. The final season has fewer jokes overall but still gets at least one laugh out of me per episode.

    I think Hader has real talent and I look forward to what he does next.

      • GorbinOutOverHere [comrade/them]
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        2 years ago

        I'm not a fan of the current season so far, didn't like

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        the time skip, and just... direction all that went? my partner and I literally spent that whole episode not sure if it was really happening or just in Barry's fucking head or something.

        • The_Walkening [none/use name]
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          2 years ago

          The bit where they introduce the time jump and

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          Their kid opens up the fridge and there's only beer, white wine and a donut

          Really convinced me that it was a fantasy, but it turns out

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          They're just shitty at being parents

      • Crucible [he/him, comrade/them]
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        2 years ago

        The bus driving through the frame so that the stop sign on the side passes directly in front of his face but he's decided the open door is his sign so he can't even see 'stop' :chefs-kiss:

  • came_apart_at_Kmart [he/him, comrade/them]
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    2 years ago

    my favorite show is about this phenomenon of people who don't understand how to engage with media when the main character is a severely broken person with the ability to almost imitate a regular human and the story illustrates how their trauma and mechanisms for coping expand outward from them, negatively impacting the characters of their world creating more traumas and mechanisms, and on and on.

    it starts off salient and then the fandom within the series turns against the fandom of the series, becoming a meta-textual analysis of media consumption as self-understanding and all critical analysis of the show becomes extremely polarizing to fans and hate-watchers alike.

    at least, that's what i have gleaned from an argument i have been having with someone on the wikipedia talk page for the show. honestly, i have not seen a single episode of my favorite show.

  • GorbinOutOverHere [comrade/them]
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    2 years ago

    I can't believe nobody else has mentioned how STEPHEN ROOT is in it aside from the quoted synopsis. He's such a great actor, and I'm always glad to see him or hear his voice in anything

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    • Tachanka [comrade/them]
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      1 year ago

      A hit man from the Midwest moves to Los Angeles and gets caught up in the city's theatre arts scene.

      i looked it up I-was-saying

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    • TheBeatles [any]
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      2 years ago

      Depressed hit man who wants to find love

      I mean it's actually "depressed hit man who wants to make it as an Actor" which is a pretty unique and funny premise. And he doesn't make it, and the "love" he finds is a toxic relationship with another broken person.

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      • Llituro [he/him, they/them]
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        2 years ago

        yet another “murderfucking main character that has a lot of glorified screen time and le epic lines actually has a sad” show

        sorry sport, your options are this or ted lassoo

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          • Llituro [he/him, they/them]
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            2 years ago

            that's why i only watch one piece, the only valid leftist form of entertainment besides the chinese marx and engels anime

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              • Llituro [he/him, they/them]
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                2 years ago

                it's insanely long partly because the manga has been going on for so goddamn long, but partly because the first 4-7 minutes of every episode is theme and recap. finding the title card is a bit of an art form.

                on the other hand, for a quasi-NEET with too much time, it is genuinely a rich piece of world-building with openly materialist cause and effect and an embrace of organized leftist action. the part i'm on currently is about an organized coalition of former slaves fighting to overthrow their government and free all the slaves. (the coalition of former slaves got reparations for a former enslavement of a few hundred years with what totals 800 years of basically full welfare, very based idea really.)

                but you're not wrong. it's also objectively a maximalist form of story telling. the last 500+ episodes have taken place over the course of an in-universe month.

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    • TheBeatles [any]
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      2 years ago

      oh he does far worse things than that

      kind of a bad guy tbh

      • GorbinOutOverHere [comrade/them]
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        it's fucking hilarious watching some of the same people accusing me of being incapable of processing media above a child's level because I disagree with the notion that the goblins in goblin slayer are a racist caricature (as opposed to the goblins in Harry Potter, which absolutely are)

        literally those same people coming into this thread

        talking about how Barry is like some pro vet thing, or is about Barry "having a sad" and being redeemed :morshupls: :freeze-gamer: :lea-why: (emojis for authenticity)

        just lol talk about fucking media illiteracy, calling Barry COPAGANDA :data-laughing: just WHEW

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          • GorbinOutOverHere [comrade/them]
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            2 years ago

            if people are going to call me illiterate vis a vis media consumption only to go on to display an even worse level of media illiteracy I am absolutely going to have an obnoxious victory lap about it

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              • GorbinOutOverHere [comrade/them]
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                2 years ago

                ulysses what are we doing, do you really want to have this back and forth tonight? I don't, but we're both those people that always have to hit reply

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                  • GorbinOutOverHere [comrade/them]
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                    2 years ago

                    so you do want to have this back and forth apparently

                    because I'm a communist, communism doesn't mean "you gotta agree that all non-white humanoid cartoon figures are racist caricatures, even if you cannot name the race they are meant to be a caricature of"

                    I would 1000% agree with y'all if there were even superficial racist attributes in their design but they are literally little fucking green men my dude, this isn't TerraFormars art design. It seriously beggars my belief that y'all insist they are just as much a racist caricature as the goblins in harry potter, just wild. \

                    anyway, unlike you I don't wanna do this shit all night, so I guess after this I'll see how many layers deep of 🙄 I get with you

      • FourteenEyes [he/him]
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        2 years ago

        he's a mass murderering psychopath but more importantly he's cringe af

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  • Nakoichi [they/them]
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    2 years ago

    Okay you gone too far this time. Barry is a good show. Way better than 99% of the garbage slop out there.

    Sometimes you just gotta let people enjoy things.

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  • Commiejones [comrade/them, he/him]
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    2 years ago

    I disagree with half of your opinion. It is really cringe but people are really like that and that is why it is amazing.

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        • regularassbitch [she/her]
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          2 years ago

          i just think it's a bit much to comment on something you have literally no opinion on besides plot synopses. i'm not saying it's the best show ever but it is definitely not what you described

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            • regularassbitch [she/her]
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              2 years ago

              i honestly don't care if you watch it or not, i'm not hurt, bill hader will also be fine. it's just weird that you were the first post on here talking about something you know next to nothing about. 2 people have said something, that is hardly a dogpile and it's weird to assume a victim role after you made a public post on a website

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                • regularassbitch [she/her]
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                  2 years ago

                  Then why is this comment chain still going on? i was referring to you watching the show or not, i am definitely annoyed by the post you made but not enough to hurt me

                  your remark was hardly silly, it was a value judgment based off of one paragraph that was completely off-base. when people said you were wrong you made an edit and talked about dogpiling. to me that seems like you were defensive about it. if it was a joke i would recommend workshopping it

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                    • regularassbitch [she/her]
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                      2 years ago

                      you're misrepresenting what i posted. i have not made an edit, what i said was "i honestly don’t care if you watch it or not". do you understand what that sentence fragment means or is this you being defensive and putting it on me

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                        • regularassbitch [she/her]
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                          2 years ago

                          hmm, i think i'm gonna get the last word because you're trying to command me to disengage instead of doing so yourself, like the rules say to do

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  • Quaxamilliom [comrade/them]
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    2 years ago

    Its just the common typical US soldier vet good and relatable bullshit. In fact, literally every US show has to have at least one person in either the main or secondary role be a US vet, this is a rule, if the show doesnt have it then the government doesn't allow it to release. There are so many shows that have filmed pilots or entire seasons that we will never be able to see because the government banned them for not including a troop.

    • GorbinOutOverHere [comrade/them]
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      2 years ago

      what's good or relatable about him being a broken sociopath

      Barry is as relatable and good as Walter White lol

      • happybadger [he/him]
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        2 years ago

        And the only time he's shown in uniform he's having a psychotic break and murdering an innocent civilian in their home. If anything his civilian reception is just condescending, with the Vanity Fair article treating him like a sad lil baby.

        • GorbinOutOverHere [comrade/them]
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          Yeah like he's only ever positively received when he lies his ass off about his discharge, and I feel like there's meant to be a noticeable jarring disconnect between the way he's received for killing "a [SLUR]" (probably just some dude walking!) and when he reveals the reason for his discharge. Like I took it as a condemnation of both the military, the bloodthirsty and racist American public (I mean all he had to do was say "some [SLUR] was coming over a ridge" or whatever and he's "a hero") and contrasting the exuberant praise he got for the former with the "jesus christ you basically killed a guy and got away with it, you can't ever tell anyone" reaction he got when he revealed the latter was meant to underscore all that