older reddit post [CW: some ableism in the comments] but its hilarious how thoroughly OP was bullied. They also claimed to be a teacher who "works with mental health professionals" so they couldn't possibly be out-of-touch :hasan-ok-dude:
This story can't possibly be true. I refuse to believe someone has been deprived of social interaction this badly.
:this: Obviously most people are not acting this freakish but there's enough deeply alienated, cynical. socially maladjusted people around that the story sounds entirely plausible.
That was such bullshit. Chinchzilla is a genuinely kind person and a great poster and did not deserve any of that shit.
I ran down that thread pretty far and all I saw was "Do it! They'd love it!"
Of course the journalist has to write a story about a Twitter thread and put the worst possible face on Americans showing kindness to one another.
More recently there was a bunch of puritanical zoomers claiming that wanting to fuck your partner was transphobic.
All I saw was the standard "nobody owes you sex, fuck off incel" discourse, which by now is standard and expected any time a man isn't getting sex from his wife.
Oh no, no, there were thousands of pages of posts calling Chinchzilla a monster for presuming to make Chili for the guys in the next apartment over. I was there. I saw the whole goddamn sordid mess go down. It lasted like a week. Chinch briefly went private. That whole swath of the left twitterati was dragged in to it. it was the dumbest moment in an extremely dumb millennium. I wouldn't have believed the level of self-righteous shitassery people were indulging in to say that making chili for your neighbors was somehow violence if I hadn't seen the posts with my own cursed eyes.
Thinking you're owed sex is standard incel psychology, so it's no wonder why people had a huge negative reaction and the man got told to fuck off.
It's Poe's Law in action
Without a winking smiley or other blatant display of humor, it is utterly impossible to parody a Creationist in such a way that someone won't mistake for the genuine article.
Nathan Poe, 2005
There's simply no degree of bizarre anti-social behavior that is so outlandish that no one would ever do it. You'll think you're writing the most over the top, ridiculous, unbelievable, impossible satire of a human being and then the guy at the bar next to you will sigh and with the longest, most tired face say "Yeah, my family is just like that too".
I think it's largely a class thing. The writer thinks that the restaurant owner is lesser than her, so his attempts to be friendly and engender good will are manipulative and, god, i don't even know the right language. Like he should be acting subservient instead of friendly, and treat them in accordance with their station or something? Providing a discount is an insult because it implies she couldn't pay full price? Or it's just good old fashioned racism. I know a lot of people scoff at the idea of racism being directed at non-Anglo white people but it's still a thing. It's not as destructive as racism directed at non-white groups, but there are still plenty of East Coast WASPs who think anyone who can't trace their ancestry back to the battle of Hastings is less human.
It largely is. There's a certain degree to which people with this attitude have an impenetrable wall of self-righteousness that protects them from self reflection, but it doesn't protect them from alienating the people around them.
they aren't being protected from self reflection as self reflection would be good for them and allow them to stop sabotaging their life
there's also people so obsessed with financial relationships having nothing personal or human to them These people freak out if their uber driver talks to them
This. If a person can't be personable and treats me like they own me. I won't work for them.
:meow-hug: How fucking alienated and antisocial as a people have we become? That's wild. Don't let them stop you from being kind.
This is a struggle session for me. On the one hand. The lady is absolutely ridiculous, full stop. On the other, the man was It*lian. It's hard to say who was right and who was wrong.
Zero ability to imagine someone having even a slightly different cultural affect, even when that affect is one of generosity to you and your friends. No, it must be a power play.
The power play in question? The self-professed desire to be a more appealing dining establishment than your competitor. People paying full price once: X dollars. People paying nearly full price twice: X+Y dollars.
The weird thing is that that almost would be coherent, but this lady clearly meant that it was meant to have power over them, the group of customers.
It would be hard to convince me to not tune out the content of someone talking about vibes.
"A way to feel as though he had authority over us" :DaBiden: Fucking average redditor moment
Imagine complaining about free fuckin garlic knots. Those things are :marx-ok:
I've got some leftover demonos in the fridge I'm gonna pretend the crust is garlic knots
There's very much a class element; If someone's being genuinely friendly with you then they must see you as roughly equal, and if you've got the right kind of brainworms having the staff acting as equals is unforgivable. There are a lot of people out there that think your income bracket is some kind of biological determinist trait written in your genes and acting too familiar with someone "above your station" is violence. Really deeply :brainworms: sicko shit, but people who think like that exist. I'm related to some of them. : p
I'm at a point in my life and development where my job requires that I tell people what to do - not so much as a supervisor but still giving people commands. It's made me so uncomfortable because I'm terrified of becoming like this. I remember how fucking annoying it is to have someone come through, critique they way you do things and change how you operate. I guess I was unhappy otherwise and it was just another thing. I was so apologetic for having to put ripples into the pool. People close to me have recently talked to me about how I need to act like the big boss comrade, stop saying um, stop undermining myself, etc. I hate it and I feel gross. But as people entrust me with bigger projects and have faith that I teach people some of the knowledge I've accumulated over years that people show up to obtain, it seems like a healthy step to take instead of just shrinking back from it.
sexual harassment by being friendly and not making any sexual advances
Free snack? :disgost:
Free drink? :horror:
Logical conclusion:"Why are you so friendly? You're very presumptuous and unprofessional. I hate it here!!11!!" :foucault-madness:
Meanwhile every other fucking human being normal reaction: :meow-bounce:
I cannot read this story without picturing the chef from Lady And The Tramp who gives them the pasta behind the restaurant.
After reading through the other comments I realized this person starkly reminds me of a teacher I had in HS who was desperately paranoid about challenges to her power, even from 13 year old kids. I'm pretty sure that I still live in her head rent free, though I can't quite remember her name.
I had a band director that desperately wanted to be liked by the band. The fact that I was funnier and commanded the room better pissed him off to no end. he was fucking pissed when he said I was off time and multiple students told him he was wrong and had changed tempo. I wasn't like the most popular kid, just objectively more fun to listen to than he was.
My people yearn to give you garlic knots, and this is how you treat us?
When your entire personality is "I love reading Yelp" Writes exactly like a deranged yelp reviewer.
My heart goes out to all of the other comrades in this thread who have served a tour in the North East and know about WASPs
This story self dunks with the garlic knots bit, so it's 100% made up.
No one who acts like this would write this story this way. They'd inflate the "creepiness" of the manager and make their friends sound dumb instead of reasonable.
Probably written by some right wing weirdo who wants to epic own women for being unreasonable and entitled.