Well, they own the means of production, they were winning by default.
It doesn't mean we can't do a little trolling. By letting them crackdown on their own assets, I'd wager, just like any other insurgency, for every 1 rebellious subreddit that gets whacked, 1 or more will come into smack back.
I didn't necessarily mean anything like that, but I'm confused on what creating new subreddits would do to weaken the moderator strike?
I think they've bought themselves time but shit the bed in the process. Their crackdown has been largely negatively seen by the userbase and they didn't address any of the concerns the strike had while making it worse for that userbase. They've passed a few subreddits off to scabs, but now they're stuck doing the same job in worse conditions with a more hostile community. That's at most a bandaid solution until the next wave of strikes comes. I think those will happen either when they crack down on one of the silly strikes the big subreddits are doing which users think are fun or when they go public and have to further restrict things. The vibe of the website is different and I think it's stuck in a negative feedback loop that it probably won't recover from.
Your comment reminds me: know any good scabbed subreddits to troll? I'm thinking posts that are debateably allowed, and then having ChatGPT rules-lawyer for me over everything, as publicly and sensationally as feasible. I'm open to suggestions, but not willing to spend more than a few minutes a day molotov-cocktailposting
I can't think of any offhand where the users are currently shitting on the scab mods. r/Snackexchange was for a bit but posts there are so formulaic that there's no opportunity to troll.
Well it's pretty easy to win when your users never leave the site.
Does threads have a non-mobile version yet? Nope didn't think so!
Well when your organized opposition tells you that they will give up in three days of course you win
eh I like the way it turbocharged lemmy (and I only browse there with libreddit when it gets linked or comes up in search results so nothing is changing for me really )
I mean there's a lot of shitty redditors flowing into lemmy, but at least its mostly the leftlib anti-corporate redditors, a lot of them aren't even hardline anti-communists which is nice. If mastodon is anything to go by, lemmy will remain a viable if niche alternative and the enshittification will continue, driving further waves of people away.
Its not like the less reactionary posters are just gone, they've just dispersed to elsewhere on the internet (or will cave and go back to reddit soon, hard to say)
I haven't had an account for a few years now but I scroll the front page of non-logged in. A new crop of subs have been elevated and the biggest trend I see are a bunch of "look at my picture, am I hot?" type things 🤢
Yeah and the insane thing about those subs is they always, ALWAYS without fail, demean the women who post there. To the extent that I doubt any women are posting their own pictures, if only to the ones that don't require verification (like truerateme). So chances are that the vast majority of pics you see there are posted by loser men who got rejected and ripped a pic from an innocent woman's insta without her consent.
The truerateme sub is run by an actual hard-core incel. Read their rules and check out the comments the dude makes about "rule infracting ratings" (as in rating people "too high" lmao).
They have an entire physiognomy guide and a ratings chart that contains the "correct" ratings.
They put people universally considered attractive in the "below average" range because their infranasal mesotunnel has a sharp angle or whatever that shit means lmfao
Strangely, the example of average woman full of unattractive flaws that they use is Brie Larson, wonder why that is?
Half the users say incredibly mean spirited demeaning shit about any women that does not look like their dream anime doll girlfriend, and the other half are straight up simps that do not know how to act like a normal person and will hit you with the most awkward "m'lady" style flirting you've ever seen.
Except for the true rate me one, that's just full of hardcore incels.
Yeah lol wtf. Weirdest one was this women asking if she was ugly and talking about being bullied at school back in the day, and basically everyone in the comments was like "Nah you're really pretty just wear fitting clothes, you'd do well in dating". To which the women's response response was "any women with a pulse can do well in online dating, I want a fulfilling relationship".
Just extremely weird all round. How is going on a subreddit about looks going to help with relationship advice lol. I guess it's a good confidence boost? But even then some dumbass redditor is bound to say you're ugly because you don't look like a redditors dream imaginary anime girlfriend or something, and erase all the positive feedback.
I never expected anything less. At this point in the Internet's development, you need substantial capital investment to challenge any of the major players - something decentralized like lemmy can reduce the costs necessary but by its nature social media requires a large install base in order to be attractive to new users, so spinning up something new at best will take a very long time but most likely will just never click until one of those larger players actually invests into it (ie Threads).
It will come around to bite them in the ass when :reddit-logo: actually gets characterized as a racist site and advertisers get upset at the new branding and start to leave.
Reddit is racist in all the socially acceptable ways so advertisers won't care
To be fair the site culture at the time of the jailbait event was so bad that it was actually viewed negatively that it got taken down and the vast majority of moderators in the backrooms supported Violentacrez. Things didn't turn around until much much later, like literal years, ShitRedditSays was enemy #1 to most of reddit but had an enormous influence in shifting site culture.
The trick is making a counter Reddit to delete so they can be “neutral”
Ie need a chatgpt bot to fill a anti- whatever took the place of Donald/ clownworld
They "won" but the company value further dropped and I don't think it will recover, it will have dropped further since this cut.
Their entire power-user base has abandoned the site, moderation has collapsed since nobody really wants to do it anymore, and what is now up there is just... Ticking along.
This is not a healthy situation. There's no vibrance. There's no desire to do anything creative because nobody wants to spend creative energy on these fuckbags.
It's a literal shell now. Sites do not do well when they become this. There is nowhere positive for it to go. Even /r/iama is completely gone, mods all quit and shut down external websites that were used for scheduling and organising. They just allow whatever on there now and refuse to solicit celebs etc.
Really amused by drama in the witcher subreddit- when the 'boycott' for a weekend didn't work they put on the NSFW tag on the subreddit, which reduces ad revenue so they got accused of falsely NSFW tagging, which is apparently against the ToS, and if they suddenly start posting more NSFW material that is ban avoidance or something.
This wasn't the first time Reddit had some massive exodus. I could've sworn there was another exodus before the whole FPH/Ellen Pao saga. And what became of those Reddit alternatives? Absolutely nothing.
This might be the first time that it hit the more mainstream subs instead of edgelord
havens, though -- at least as far as I can remember.
big platforms rarely if ever die catastrophically, they just slowly whimper out. it just seems like social media in general wants to die. if you think about it deeply, they're all untenable businesses in the long run with advertising revenue sitting at the bottom of their revenue pyramid
i think we're getting to the point where "data" isn't as economically viable as it was believed it was gonna be. There's nothing left to extract. Everyone's data is already out in the open and I don't know how well it correlates to money spent on advertisements.
These businesses were always loss leaders with the expectations of becoming monopolies one day, and they never did.
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