I thought that during the 2020-2024 interim the Democrats were supposed to be building someone up for the next generation of the party. To no one's surprise, they've been doing exactly fuck-all for four years - but, for insiders who actually care about the party's future, who are they hanging their hat on? Voters' confidence in Kamala has tanked; Cuomo was maybe their man until the sexual harassment charges hit (side question: how was he able to skate on the nursing home scandal?). But anyway, who's the next empty neoliberal they'll run in future elections?
its fukin Newsom, cmon, all the ghoul of Biden in a new sexy body. i'd say he had a good chance this cycle but he's a good dog waiting his turn
Yep, he's exceptionally disciplined at toeing the party line and prioritizing the Democratic machine over his own immediate wishes. They will reward his patience handsomely when it is His Turn.
i really have got a sense that "their turn" is legitimately a driving principle in the party, either at Obama or Bernie the party got together and reorganized to prevent an upstart who didnt do their time from ever touching power again.
anyone else, even Bernie would tow the important political lines. the loyalty to Biden is about this turns bullshit
And no one exemplifies this better than Biden himself who had been paying his dues to the party since disco was popular.
there is no one "after biden". all hope is hung on this man, the most progressive force in american politics since Franklin Delveccio Roosevelt. or is he the most imperialist, racist force in american politics since Theodore Roosevelt? i can't remember, but facts don't matter. what matters is that this is the last election america will ever have, because if Trump wins it's all over. for everyone. Trump will launch the space nukes to every corner of the galaxy and destroy everything that could have ever been imagined over an infinite timeline. including God. Trump will kill God. and most importantly, brunch. so press 30330 to give $3 to Team Biden and don't forget you can win big at goldenpalacecasino.com
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ps - i have no idea. in 2016, hedges said in some interview that the Democratic party would rally around the conservative candidate and use the corrupt party mechanisms to kill the youthful, engaged energy around Sanders, the closest thing it had to an insurgent populist movement. this backroom dealing would lead to a profound disillusionment among many of the politically-engaged people who would have made up the future base of the party. the loss of this bloc would create a fatal wound in the party itself.
i think that's what we're seeing. the party is a corpse that is twitching on the slab and no amount of threatening, scolding, pomp, or pageantry seems capable of making young people give a shit. no one wants to be a labor-oriented, populist reform candidate, because the party bosses have shown they will scorch the earth to cut them down, so all we get are people in thrall to capital formations selected by the weird focus group/consultant-driven court intrigue of party elites and major donors. and those people don't want to put up names until there's a good chance of Return on Investment. so its just going to be one brushed and polished coward after another, pulled from a hat at the last minute and dumped on a saddle in the horse race. name TBD.
These "focus groups" seem to always focus on the wrong thing.
Imagine one of us being part of one of these groups...
a jungle primary between beto, pete, stacey abrams, newsom, some random senators, the worst billionaire you have ever seen, and eventually AOC probably
they will rally behind newsom after pete proves to be too unlikeable
Going purely off vibes, I always felt like rat boy could be groomed into their perfect candidate. It wouldn't be that much work
yeah the average person looks at Pete and visibly recoils in disgust. He'd be a Democrat version of DeSantis. He does well to his specific crowd, white comfortable nerds who work at Deloitte, but everyone else just sees a robotic weird rat man. Horrendous vibes emanate from him.
I mean I wouldn't put it past the democrats to put their chips behind him, but normal people see his entire vibe as fake corporate mandatory fun overly sentimental nothingness. He's a physical manifestation of Patrick Bateman. People don't look at Pete and see themselves, they look at Pete and see their weirdest supervisor at work. They see debate club nerds who they used to bully. They see a guy who would have worn a bow tie to elementary school
He'd be a Democrat version of DeSantis.
That is a perfect comparison. Like any normal person is disgusted by either of them even if they know nothing about them
This is the best description of Mayo Pete I've ever read.
And many who are!
Edit: fr though I've talked to apolitical normies that don't know much about him but are still just surface level skeeved out by his demeanor
why? he's definitely not a weird rat hybrid person who eats cinnamon rolls like chicken wings
They'll crack open one of the same brand of birthing vats that Buttigieg squelched out of, this time less gay and more boring looking. This procedurally generated and Langley gestated homunculus will be the only available option
It’s her turn
For real though it doesn’t even matter who they run. The democrats are petite bourgeoisie who believe whatever the corporate press tells them. They’ll fall in line behind whatever dogshit candidate the DNC chooses because whoever the RNC chooses will somehow be worse even though they’ll actually be the same, just with slightly different definitions of what constitutes politeness.
That fact that you’re asking means you’re a Russian shill. We don’t speak of anyone EXCEPT Biden. He will be president. That’s all that matters. Stop talking about long term plans because there is a cheeto about to be put into a prison cell.
Gavin Newsom has been doing some serious auditioning the past year or two.
Liz from TrueAnon needs to stop being coy about the Newsom conspiracy she’s hinted at having inside knowledge of. The man is going to run eventually.
I mean just the first minute and a half of this clip makes him sound like he's been preparing his speeches in the mirror while applying his daily bottle of hair gel. It's like he's absorbed some Trump mannerisms the past few years.
https://youtu.be/CSzxlcrMgxo?si=5ASqNSYkrHg9eh8x
Holy shit he's a neolib android dream. He's plasticky. He gave me a vibe of a casual president in some insanely shit Hallmark tv movie called Me and the President Fell in <3. If you turn the sound off - you can make up dialog in your head and pretend it is that movie and he's trying to seduce her.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CSzxlcrMgxo&t=67s
1:07 "This is the real thing! You know how much I care for you. But it's more than that. I love you!..."
1:16 He does an impression of her mom telling him "Gavin, you are the man for her. She needs more than anything..."
I don't know what the actual audio is. I like my version much more than whatever it is. Still - what the fuck was up at 1:16!
The worst blend of
Valley girl x timeshare salesman x reality TV show actor x insufferable lib x action movie president
- Show
It's probably going to be 4 more years of Trump and this guy's guaranteed to be scoring consistently on technicalities and procedure the entire time. He will lose every state to Tucker Carlson, who will be getting his show on Fox News back thanks to an executive order on Trump's first day in office.
Perfect example of someone insufferable to anyone except the libbest lib. Quality pick.
Newsom visited China, he was present at the SF meeting with Xi, seems like the most obvious pragmatic answer.
They'll never run him, he actually thinks people deserve health care.
At one point even Nancy Pelosi wanted single payer healthcare in the 90s, the dems can mold Newsom in their image
I mean, if I were in some kind of monkey's paw situation where I was put in charge of the democrats but I had to ignore my ideology and just put in someone who could win, there are actually a couple of really solid electoral options. The upper midwestern states that Trump won in 2016 have popular democratic governors, notably Gretchen Whitmer in Michigan and Josh Shapiro in Pennsylvania. Shapiro even got some good press for handling a bridge collapse really competently. Other than that, Raphael Warnock is a Georgia senator who's won multiple tough re-election campaigns despite being dragged down by that moronic grifter Stacy Abrams. Mark Kelly is a senator from Arizona who's a former astronaut and won a tough re-election.
The thing about this moment is that it should be really easy for mainstream democratic party liberals to just sweep the whole country and ride to the White House because of Dobbs/Trump being incredibly unpopular/Republicans being loathsome and unappealing and getting more unappealing all the time. The problem for them is squarely on Biden.
that moronic grifter Stacy Abrams
How dare you besmirch the President of Earth!
Show
These are all good candidates (from a lib perspective)...exactly why the Democratic party won't do it.
- Gretchen Whitmer - woman
- Josh Shapiro - Jewish
- Raphael Warnock - Black, bald
- Mark Kelly - bald
Your faith in Amerikkkans is interesting, but we all know how the hogs will respond to these choices (or what response will be fed to them by the media they consume, anyway).
Best you will get is your grandma's favorite person belonging to (at most!) one marginalized category.
She's going to sheepdog progressives for the rest of her career, and when the time comes to collect the "paycheck" of a better office, or even president, they're gonna tell her to kick rocks. They've sewn trumps head onto Dick Cheneys body and are running that. Why do you hate democracy? This is the most important election of our lives! We have to beat Barron trump. Then maybe you can have an hour off from your 24hour Bitcoin mining job, kiddo.
Its 2059 Nancy Pelosi is 119 but its time for her to finally pass. Before though another must take her place. Its only just if it passes on to a WoC but at 70 Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez would be too young to lead the Progressive Caucus.
lol, Nancy will have been mute for the last 20 years, but her aides interpret her will through her morning tea leaves, like Diane Feinstein, but now as oops all farce
That's true. A completely impotent position where she can grift, scold, grandstand and backstab, all while being lauded as a champion of democracy
I think that's likely, but not guaranteed. If the party is sure she'll toe the line, and she crushes the party's anointed candidate in the primaries, then she could be the next Obama.
They're going to pick some aide or state assembly person (or a couple) to give a speech at the DNC this year and try to recreate an Obama 2004 moment
