https://twitter.com/redditships/status/1307751094496514048

  • communistthrowaway69 [none/use name]
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    4 years ago

    That mindset about "everyone deep down wanting what they think is best for the world" is a baby brained attitude you must grow out of.

    At the very least, because it isn't true. But more importantly, because it doesn't matter.

    I imagine lib girl doesn't feel this way about the unarmed people the cops shoot in the street. Were they all bad people on the inside?

    There's no way to convince someone out of this, it's literally a form of immaturity. They have to see evil directly in front of them to truly understand.

    • Randomdog [he/him]
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      4 years ago

      Yeah the whole "well Hitler was obviously evil" thing is fine in retrospect, but if we can only call something evil AFTER it's already put people in gas chambers then it's a bit too fucking late.

      • lvysaur [he/him]
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        4 years ago

        "Hitler is evil" is true but it's also a way for white colonialists to wash their hands

        Same as how Americans blame everything on "alabama" or "mississippi" when it's really fundamental to white Americans in general.

        If you just pile the blame on that one guy, you can paint yourself as acceptable

        • evilgiraffemonkey [he/him]
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          4 years ago

          First we must study how colonization works to decivilize the colonizer, to brutalize him in the true sense of the word, to degrade him, to awaken him to buried instincts, to covetousness, violence, race hatred, and moral relativism; and we must show that each time a head is cut off or an eye put out in Vietnam and in France they accept the fact, each time a little girl is raped and in France they accept the fact, each time a Madagascan is tortured and in France they accept the fact, civilization acquires another dead weight, a universal regression takes place, a gangrene sets in, a center of infection begins to spread; and that at the end of all these treaties that have been violated, all these lies that have been propagated, all these punitive expeditions that have been tolerated, all these prisoners who have been tied up and "interrogated," all these patriots who have been tortured, at the end of all the racial pride that has been encouraged, all the boastfulness that has been displayed, a poison has been distilled into the veins of Europe and, slowly but surely, the continent proceeds toward savagery.

          And then one fine day the bourgeoisie is awakened by a terrific boomerang effect: the gestapos are busy, the prisons flll up, the torturers standing around the racks invent, refine, discuss.

          People are surprised, they become indignant. They say: "How strange! But never mind-it's Nazism, it will pass!" And they wait, and they hope; and they hide the truth from themselves, that it is barbarism, the supreme barbarism, the crowning barbarism that sums up all the daily barbarisms; that it is Nazism, yes, but that before they were its victims, they were its accomplices; that they tolerated that Nazism before it was inflicted on them, that they absolved it, shut their eyes to it, legitimized it, because, until then, it had been applied only to non-European peoples; that they have cultivated that Nazism, that they are responsible for it, and that before engulfing the whole edifice of Western, Christian civilization in its reddened waters, it oozes, seeps, and trickles from every crack.

          Yes, it would be worthwhile to study clinically, in detail, the steps taken by Hitler and Hitlerism and to reveal to the very distinguished, very humanistic, very Christian bourgeois of the twentieth century that without his being aware of it, he has a Hitler inside him, that Hitler inhabits him, that Hitler is his demon, that if he rails against him, he is being inconsistent and that, at bottom, what he cannot forgive Hitler for is not the crime in itself, the crime against man, it is not the humiliation of man as such, it is the crime against the white man, the humiliation of the white man, and the fact that he applied to Europe colonialist procedures which until then had been reserved exclusively for the Arabs of Algeria, the "coolies" of India, and the "n*****s" of Africa.

          At the end of capitalism, which is eager to outlive its day, there is Hitler. At the end of formal humanism and philosophic renunciation, there is Hitler.

          -Aime Cesaire, Discourse on Colonialism

    • 90u9y8gb9t86vytv97g [they/them]
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      4 years ago

      Isn't it easy to reflect that back with "Do you think Hitler was doing what he felt was best?"

      And then, since she either thinks all people do, or Hitler was at his core evil, you then explain that his intent doesn't matter because he actually killed and imprisoned innocent people. McConnell does the same.

    • Coca_Cola_but_Commie [he/him]
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      4 years ago

      The ruling class must just fucking love that some significant portion of the population believes that violence is never justified. Was it always this way, or have us American's just been brainwashed by years and years of civility nonsense and "turn the other cheek"?

      • communistthrowaway69 [none/use name]
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        4 years ago

        No, it's new, for sure.

        Americans are much more domesticated than they used to be.

        https://www.vice.com/en_us/article/8gd3px/kill-the-banker-0000525-v21n12

  • princeofsin [he/him]
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    4 years ago

    According to her, people like the turtle are good people deep down and she's absolutely certain that he is doing what he's doing because he thinks it's what's best for society

    I wonder how she feels about the Iraq war and kids getting killed via drone stikes...

  • a_jug_of_marx_piss [he/him]
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    4 years ago

    Never tell people in your life you think your political enemies getting guillotined would be funny.

    You don’t need to go shouting it, but if someone starts talking politics at you, never fucking own it. Some coworker is like “trump sucks”, say “yeah I know, but guillotining him would not be funny”. Your grandpa says “trump rules”, say “no he sucks ass, but guillotining him would not be funny”. You’re on a date and they ask who you’re voting for? Say “my political enemies getting guillotined would not be funny”. Cashier asks would you like change? “Yes, but my political enemies getting guillotined would not be funny”.

  • AFineWayToDie [he/him]
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    4 years ago

    We'll split the difference. We'll gruesomely murder tyrants, but then we'll make movies about how badly it made us feel.

      • AFineWayToDie [he/him]
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        4 years ago

        I didn't hear it credited to him directly, but it was a common reference on /r/CTH

        Having looked up this Boyle character, though, I feel like I could benefit from having his material in my life. Thank you.

    • p_sharikov [he/him]
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      4 years ago

      To prevent things from getting political, we may have to also murder some good people.

  • Nagarjuna [he/him]
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    4 years ago

    Wow, I honestly feel pretty bad for this guy. I wish I was laughing.

    • 90u9y8gb9t86vytv97g [they/them]
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      4 years ago

      Exactly, link this site to people like this who are just on the edge of not using "the turtle" as an own but are just ready to embrace "yeah these people are evil and deserve to be in prison at the least."

  • captchaintherye [any]
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    4 years ago

    I’m pretty good at relationship advice and I have one suggestion that will fix all of this.

    VOTE.

  • DasKarlBarx [he/him,comrade/them]
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    4 years ago

    Ok I do feel bad for this person and think they generally seem alright.

    However, imagine having a 5 year old child and still using The Hunger Games as your moral compass.

    • VolcelPolice [any]
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      4 years ago

      I like to think that's just them using a reference for their clearly lib girlfriend, but I might just be making excuses for them

  • VolcelKnights [they/them]
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    4 years ago

    It seems she's rethinking their relationship and using the "petty tyrant is OK to wish the death for" as an excuse to rethink the arrangement; under her impression, she is leaving a child alone with someone who may or may not be indifferent to the deaths of decent-if-misguided political actors.

    • ProfessionalSlacker
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      4 years ago

      This lady probably only conceives of morality from comic book movies tbh

      • Uncle [he/him]
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        4 years ago

        The man probably does too. The first thing he thought of when he reached out for an example of a tyrant was The Hunger Games.

  • PurrLure [she/her]
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    4 years ago

    To make matters worse, not only did his girlfriend leave him with their 5 year old without notice, but because of that he had to miss work to care of their kid.

    That could get him fired! And as we all know, jobs grow on mother fucking trees during a pandemic.