Welcome! Don’t let the ironic detachment fool you, this is one of the kindest and most well moderated places on the internet.

Be open to having your opinions challenged because if you’re from the anglosphere I promise you the propaganda and indoctrination run much deeper than you expect. No one challenging your views is doing so out of some desire to personally attack you. Feel free to report if that’s what it feels like because our mods are A1 best in the fediverse and they will attend to that shit. Most of us are just trying not to feel hopeless and powerless, especially those of us in the west. Sometimes that can manifest as vitriolic rhetoric but our mods are pretty good and catching and stamping that shit out.

We all believe that growth happens through struggle and we’ve all had to struggle a lot with each other and ourselves to arrive at the positions we carry. And do not mistake this for a hive mind because there’s actually a pretty wide range of beliefs here and we’re all the better for it.

And we all recognize that we are all fallible and so it’s ok to be wrong about things. We get stuff wrong all the time here. But often times the difference between correct and incorrect is not so much whether “X thing happened like this” vs “actually X thing happened like this” but “X thing happened like this” vs “I do not have the firsthand knowledge or resources to say how X thing happened or whether it’s happening at all”. This is especially true when it comes to current events. (Uyghur “genocide” being a great example of this)

Just keep an open mind and remember that the atomic unit of propaganda is NOT falsehood, it’s EMPHASIS.

And if that comment about Xinjiang is too spicy for you then DM me so I can set you up w/ my homie Mehmet. He’s no Authoritarian tankie totalitarian apologist and he can get you an incredible deal on some Iraqi WMD’s!

Oh and don’t clean the owl, we like them that way!

      • Frank [he/him, he/him]
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        11 months ago

        Maxim 16: Your name is in the mouth of others. Be sure it has teeth.

          • Frank [he/him, he/him]
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            11 months ago

            The 70 maxims of maximally effective mercenaries, formerly the 7 habits of highly effective pirates before the original 7 habits guy threatened to sue. It's from the extremely long running, like drinking age, military sci-fi web comic Shlock Mercenary.

        • MF_COOM [he/him]
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          11 months ago

          Make sure the mouth has teeth? Or make sure your name has teeth?

          Like grammatically it refers to your name, but only one of the two things makes sense to have teeth. But why would you want someone else's mouth to have teeth exactly?

  • Nagarjuna [he/him]
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    11 months ago

    This forum after years of struggle is fairly ideologically consistent: Socially anarchist, Economically Dengist.

    • GarbageShoot [he/him]
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      11 months ago

      Economically Dengist.

      So, you know I'm the first to defend Deng, but I'd describe the forum as adhering more towards XJT than DXT, and that's to its credit.

      • Nagarjuna [he/him]
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        11 months ago

        It was a throw-away gag riffing on "socially liberal, economically conservative" not an accurate assessment of this site's opinions lol.

        • Frank [he/him, he/him]
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          11 months ago

          I'm going to be honest I have no idea what the Dengist reforms were and I don't care that much. Let economists deal with economy issues, I'm hear to make terrible memes.

      • JuneFall [none/use name]
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        11 months ago

        You know, I think while there are more XJTs it isn't held by such a vast majority, as there is a bit more than DXT and XJT. Still XJT is quite prominent and the arguments against it have to have some serious content.

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  • AcidSmiley [she/her]
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    11 months ago

    No one challenging your views is doing so out of some desire to personally attack you.

    Unless you're a transphobe in which case you can go and eat a bag of glass shards. gui-trans

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      • Zuzak [fae/faer, she/her]
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        11 months ago

        Took me a minute to remember about Twitter banana discourse but I was appreciating the meme just as much without getting the reference.

          • Zuzak [fae/faer, she/her]
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            11 months ago

            Somebody said that under global socialism there wouldn't be year round bananas in like Ohio bc the supply chain wouldn't make sense and everyone started arguing about it.

            • FourteenEyes [he/him]
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              11 months ago

              Under global socialism every community would have local hot houses for cultivating exotic fruits

            • ElChapoDeChapo [he/him, comrade/them]
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              11 months ago

              I'm with the chapo boys on this one, who even likes bananas? They're a pretty mediocre fruit

              Plantains on the other hand you can pry from my cold dead hands

              • pooh [she/her, any]
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                11 months ago

                Bananas that they sell in places like the US are garbage because that variety is grown for the purpose of being easier to ship without going bad and not for flavor. Bananas in countries like Brazil, on the other hand, are more diverse and typically much more flavorful, depending on the strain.

                • SerLava [he/him]
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                  11 months ago

                  Yeah I used to have bananas in my backyard and they were fire, and some people had ones that tasted like cotton candy or some shit

              • glans [it/its]
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                11 months ago

                bananas are supposed to be cheap.

                but if you subtract the weight of the skin, which is inedible, unsmokable and otherwise not consumable, it is not particularly cheap actually.

                plantains have thinner skin and bigger meat so there is less waste.

                mini bananas are ++++expensive

    • OgdenTO [he/him]
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      11 months ago

      One day it's pee pee, the next it's poo poo

        • Evergreen [she/her]
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          11 months ago

          No just asking. I don't really do such a thing myself, but I can see why you might in the case of reddit especially.

  • babushkot [they/them]
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    11 months ago

    finding this place feels a bit like coming home since I used to lurk r/cth (and r/gzd) heart-sickle

    • Red_Scare [he/him]
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      11 months ago

      for me the shortlived glory days of mtc were the best, really hope to recapture some of that spirit here and on lemmygrad

    • Evergreen [she/her]
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      11 months ago

      Same. Except, I was here 2 years ago, wasn't sure exactly what was going on and stuck to xitter to keep up with left things. It wasn't as good obviously though there are great people there. I'm back now.

  • Zuzak [fae/faer, she/her]
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    11 months ago

    Tbh idk if I agree with this approach we're doing of hitting everyone with our most controversial geopolitical takes as soon as they walk in the door. Like yeah that's part of what we're about, but there's so much more to us than that. Plus all that stuff is so far away, and we have so little influence over it, maybe we should focus on domestic issues where we might find more common ground.

    That's why my message to new users is this:

    If you harbor and abet a KKKat while allowing it outdoors to wage what can, by any reasonable standard, only be described as a campaign of stochastic terrorism against the indigenous bird population, then you will be second against the wall when the revolution comes.

    Second, because we will execute your cat first.

    This is not a joke. We never joke about outdoor cats here.

    • seawoowaes [comrade/them]
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      11 months ago

      Based on how federation will work the news thread will show up on the front page of /all so having some sort of disclaimer included makes sense to me

      • LaBellaLotta [any]
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        11 months ago

        Honestly I was hoping someone might have dropped some more Xinjiang info by now too because I do not have those resources on hand .

        I just find it so incredibly hard to take seriously the idea that the global community can get worked up into such a froth over something like this after the prolonged occupation and genocidal war of the Middle East conducted by the U.S. Of which the Iraq war is only one of the most recent installment. That fact and the fact of nuclear war as a possibility makes it obvious to me that even in the worst case scenario and something awful is being done by China, IT SHOULD NOT BE U.S. THAT DOES ANYTHING ABOUT IT. I mean fuck the Vietnamese stopped Pol Pot who knows what could happen.

        Being bordered with Tibet raises questions to me. There are open questions about the compatibility of Abrahamic religions with a communist society IMO. I would say each one contains positive, revolutionary traits, and negative, reactionary traits. How those things are approached is absolutely a crucial open question and one that was a major stumbling block for the U.S.S.R too in terms of maintains internal coherency. Correct me if I’m wrong but I believe the Chinese have been much more accepting of religious diversity and it has clearly helped in maintaining a more coherent and durable state.

        I don’t fucking know ultimately, it just smells like Taiwan and Tibet and Ukraine and myriad other state department conceived deliberate quagmires. I cannot in good conscience support the action of the U.S. military intervening in China because to me it spells the end of the fucking world. Sorry not sorry if that’s controversial to anyone reading.

        • blight [any]
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          11 months ago

          [...] I just find it so incredibl[e] [...] the global community [...] conducted by the U.S.

          [...] nuclear war [...] is being done by China [...]

          [...] fuck the Vietnamese [...]

          [...] Pol Pot [...] knows what could happen [...]

          [...] I cannot in good conscience support [...] China [...]

          [...] China [...] spells the end of the fucking world [...]

          I can't believe you would say these things ooooooooooooooh

        • emizeko [they/them]
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          11 months ago

          since you mentioned dropping Xinjiang info here's a p good summary

          https://redsails.org/the-xinjiang-atrocity-propaganda-blitz/

        • pooh [she/her, any]
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          11 months ago

          Here’s another good resource on Xinjiang in addition to what emizeko linked: https://www.qiaocollective.com/education/xinjiang

        • terojo [he/him]
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          11 months ago

          Makes sense to me. I think China will take some serious baiting to give the US what it wants in Asia (another (proxy) war). I don't think the US realises quite what democratic centralism means for it's ability to make this opponent act in a predictable way. Which is to say, I think we're safe from nuclear war for now, at least between China and the States.

      • Zuzak [fae/faer, she/her]
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        11 months ago

        Fair, also that's gonna be wild, the first day of that is going create some incredible posting slop.

    • edge [he/him]
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      11 months ago

      We gotta get that shit out the way ahead of time so we don’t have libs constantly whining about it because they didn’t all see it at once. I’d rather not have every news megathread filled with libs whining about “red fash authoritarian tankie rashist wumao genocide-denying Putin-loving vatniks”.

      • Nagarjuna [he/him]
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        11 months ago

        When I was a lib, I'd have been on board with everything we say here except the foreign policy stuff. It was only because I respected the other stuff folks had to say that I ended up moving on foreign policy issues. The struggle sessions are part of the process of helping transform consciousness.

      • Zuzak [fae/faer, she/her]
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        11 months ago

        There's going to be people whining about that regardless of what they see when.

        I think for most, or at least for a lot of people, our reputation precedes us in that regard and their imagination fills in the rest. I'd like to communicate that we're human beings with a sense of humor and self-awareness. When I meet new people, I'd like have a bit of "Hey, how's it going? How about this weather, huh?" rather than going straight into, "I'm not a genocide denier because the thing I deny isn't a genocide." And generally with negotiation/persuasion you want to table stuff like that at first and come around to it once you've established some rapport.

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      • Zuzak [fae/faer, she/her]
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        11 months ago

        Partly I'm just setting up the bit. I do tend to prefer to let libs be the ones to bring up Xinjiang, just so it's clear the onus is on them to prove I should give a shit. I don't think we should censor ourselves, and ofc we're going to have those discussions, but personally I wouldn't bring it up in a welcome statement. Your point is valid, but it's not like it's Chinese nationals who are yelling about Uighurs, and I don't think there's anything wrong with saying that Westerners should focus on fixing our own shit and leave everyone else alone.

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  • HornyOnMain
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    11 months ago

    Yeah, to any lurkers here reading this, the hexbear mods and members are so fucking good and have literally created the most trans friendly space I've ever been in on the internet (including some trans specific spaces) and if it weren't for hexbear I think it would have taken me a lot longer to realise I was trans

    Also I'm in two discords specifically for trans communists made out of their members which are pretty cool

    cat-trans hexbear-trans cat-trans hexbear-trans cat-trans

    • daisy
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      11 months ago

      I credit hexbear for preparing me to handle a young cousin's FTM exploration properly. I was hanging out with them at the Toronto pride parade this year. They'd always liked to present themself as androgynous when growing up. When they used a traditionally-masculine name different from their birth name at a coffee shop, it was nice to simply ask "Trans?" and for the right pronouns. I know they were worried about how I'd react (a very cis male 40+ oldster) but learning from people here about how to be a trans ally really helped that conversation go well. I went from just being the cool cousin, to being the cool safe ally cousin. That was a really good day. I owe it to the people here.

      Edit: And I just found out that they've come out to their parents as trans, and their parents are 100% supportive, never deadnaming, never misgendering. I always did like that particular uncle. He's a good guy.

    • terojo [he/him]
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      11 months ago

      Anything in particular that makes it so trans friendly? If there's anything like a formula, I'd love to be able to take it elsewhere.

          • MolotovHalfEmpty [he/him]
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            11 months ago

            They always tell on themselves with this. Given how many of our most powerful posters here are trans comrades, literally everyone who ever used the downvote will have done so in response to a user who was trans. I certainly did but since I never did it out of spite or habit and, voila, whadya know, I'm still here.

            I'm glad the downvote is gone since it's a bad system and bad for the vibe in general. But I'm even happier the mods purged the transphobes. Fuck those crybabies. cissues

          • SerLava [he/him]
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            11 months ago

            auto-banned anyone who ever downvoted a trans user

            For the uninitiated coming into this thread, no that is not literally true, we banned people who downvoted a whole bunch of specific posts from trans people that were clearly just "hey I love being trans👍" or something clearly good and cool and valid about their trans experience or whatever. We did not ban people who just happened to downvote a trans user who said they like pineapple on pizza or some shit. That doofus is telling on himself, he was probably in here just downvoting people for being trans.

        • HornyOnMain
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          11 months ago

          I remember when someone posted a link to a Reddit thread complaining about us ages ago in the dunk tank and in the replies someone was comparing TransComrade69 to Stalin and some other radlib was saying that they found it curious that online socialist spaces ended up mirroring "the authoritarian police states they admire so much" or something to that effect

          Basically just:

          wojak-nooo "banning transphobes is literally 1984 Stalinism"

          yes-comm "Yes."

    • kristina [she/her]
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      11 months ago

      Some trans specific places really have terrible moderation and let terfs, liberals with concerns, and similar run ramshod over the place

  • Lerios [hy/hym]
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    11 months ago
    ngl i was fully expecting this post to be a

    PIGPOOPBALLS jumpscare

    • LaBellaLotta [any]
      hexagon
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      11 months ago

      I guess i was intending this more for users who are dissapointed w/ how the de federation was handled and are considering/starting a new account here. If you’re a lurking lemmy.world mod or malding user I would direct you to the Policy Per Ban (PPB) page at the bottom of the site so you can see just how rigorous and thorough the moderation is here.

  • TomBombadil [he/him, she/her]
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    11 months ago

    Join us here where NATO isn't sacred and the IMF can be criticized. Yes it's scary but don't worry old Tom Bombadil will sing to you and get away the barrow-wight of liberalism.

  • MerryChristmas [any]
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    11 months ago

    I disagree with half of y'all on a daily basis and only like 1/20 of the time does it blow up in my face. This is an extremely good ratio for an online community.