• Puggo [he/him]
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    1 year ago

    This is an op-ed by some crusty, old, retired Marine lieutenant colonel in a media site owned by Monster.com. Calling this an op-ed ran by the US military is a big stretch

    • goatmeal [none/use name]
      hexagon
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      1 year ago

      Yeah it's not any odficial position by the military or even a proposition...

      It's still an alarming op-ed

      • duderium [he/him]
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        1 year ago

        People were warning of a draft at the beginning of the Iraq War, but they were always leftwing people. As far as I recall, liberals and conservatives knew better than to bring it up. The fact that an opinion like this is being published anywhere is concerning, and it shows the intensifying contradictions of capitalism. The military needs more guys for imperialism, but that means less labor for small and medium businesses to exploit at home. On top of that, the population has been devastated by covid in order to enrich pharmaceutical companies. The USA’s different economic interests are tearing it apart.

        • star_wraith [he/him]
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          1 year ago

          I think Nixon was pretty savvy; I think he knew the opposition to the war among young Americans was more about the draft than it was concern and solidarity with the people of Southeast Asia (though this was certainly a part of it for the socialist and communist opposition). Once he started to wind down the draft, open opposition to the war diminished.

          Arguably the most prominent anti-war song, Fortunate Son, is more about how it’s unfair that the kids of the rich weren’t dying in Vietnam, not that the war itself was immoral.

  • happybadger [he/him]
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    1 year ago

    The moment they give me a gun, I'd shoot the guy who gave me the gun and the guy who told him to give me a gun. Make Officers Fragged Again.

    • GarbageShoot [he/him]
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      1 year ago

      You'd probably want to wait at least a few minutes in that hypothetical unless you were seeking to just be shot by either the second guy or the third guy.

      Also, bullets are traceable and fragging worked well in Vietnam because it wasn't.

      • JuryNullification [he/him]
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        1 year ago

        How are bullets traceable? There’s no micro stamping and rifling marks, much like other forensics, is suspect at best.

        • GarbageShoot [he/him]
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          1 year ago

          When you have a very narrow range of possibilities, circumstantial and incomplete evidence is very useful both in genuine epistemology and in pinning someone so you have a sacrificial lamb for the crime.

  • solaranus
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    1 year ago

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    • GaveUp [she/her]
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      1 year ago

      You are going straight to prison if you told them that in a direct war against Russia or China lol

    • tactical_trans_karen [she/her, comrade/them]
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      1 year ago

      I can tell you for certain that you won't get a security clearance. But if you're likely to be placed in the rank and file, they might gaff it off and still send you to boot. Just tell them you're a commie and that you will actively sabotage operations the first chance you get and by any means necessary.

    • ClimateChangeAnxiety [he/him, they/them]
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      1 year ago

      I always wondered this. Like, if you’re the US military giving me training and a weapon is a fucking terrible idea, I’m much more likely to shoot my commander and defect immediately than anything else

      • solaranus
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        1 year ago

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      • MemesAreTheory [he/him, any]
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        1 year ago

        See, there's an argument to be made for not telling them. What an amazing chance to do some praxis. It's sort of like not bringing up that you know about Jury Nullification so that you can get on a jury specifically to nullify or hang it.

    • goatmeal [none/use name]
      hexagon
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      1 year ago

      Yes... They'd smirk at you and yell "I GUESS IT'S PARTY TIME FOR YOU THEN MUTHAFUCKA... btw I'd keep that commie talk to a minimum among the other trainees or risk being beaten with soap in a sock"

  • Tankiedesantski [he/him]
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    1 year ago

    Critical support for the US military dragging NAFO idiots kicking an screaming into an active war zone to be mulched by Russian artillery.

  • GarbageShoot [he/him]
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    1 year ago

    Didn't they get fragged on average like once every three days for an extended period back in Vietnam?

  • ImOnADiet
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    1 year ago

    I swear to fucking god if this actually goes through and Americans don’t burn every city in this country to the ground over it I will turn into a 3rd world Maoist on the spot

  • Frank [he/him, he/him]
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    1 year ago

    Lul has there been a further decline in recruitment since brandon implemented the "let-er-rip!" Policy on covid?

  • Tachanka [comrade/them]
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    1 year ago

    kidnap me from my wife and children and force me into some trench with proles who speak a different language, and I will frag the fuck out of you, this has been a public service announcement

    • Venus [she/her]
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      1 year ago

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  • BeamBrain [he/him]
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    1 year ago

    I'll put on a prison uniform before I put on an army uniform.

  • AbbysMuscles [she/her]
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    1 year ago

    Please draft me into the military mister porky. I am a very well-balanced individual who can be trusted with military weapons

  • LeZero [he/him]
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    1 year ago

    the added effect of increasing public pressure to prevent open-ended wars led by unaccountable senior leaders like we experienced in our national debacles in Iraq and Afghanistan.

    Ah yes, public pressure keeping leaders accountable, a common occurrence in the US

    • UnicodeHamSic [he/him]
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      1 year ago

      Veterans with guns have had a better than average track record of applying pressure

  • cosecantphi [he/him, they/them]
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    1 year ago

    wondering if i should just do the passive resistance thing and eat a prison sentence, or if i should go with it until i'm overseas, frag my commanding officer first chance i get, then defect to the other side

    • Venus [she/her]
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      1 year ago

      Depends who we're fighting for me. Try to send me to fuckin France or some wacky bullshit like that and I'm just not going. But China or Korea or whatever? Better believe I'm defecting asap

      Hypothetically of course, I don't think the US will ever try to draft me lol