As they’re pushed into the ovens
They'll never see the inside of an oven. They aren't sufficiently tan and they've got plenty of money and influence.
This is all about kicking the people on the lowest rung of the ladder, while screaming about International Jewish Conspiracy behind it all. The gumbas might not like Pelosi, but McCarthy and McConnell are happy to have her around as controlled opposition.
Its like the 20th century never even happened.
Nothing special about the 20th century except the new chemistry. We've been genociding since the species figured out how to put a bit of flint on a wooden branch. I don't see anything to suggest we'll stop genociding any time soon.
I had libs argue with me on "progressive" discords that Mitt Romney and George HW Bush are examples of good republicans lmao I hope they're crying right now
Liberals like the idea, and many actually think that the only differences in politics aren't the end goals but the paths to get there. It's why they disliked Sanders, but also thought that Biden supported universal healthcare.
They point to how these folks supported some form of healthcare reform, that the ADA got passed under HW, ect. The other piece of this is that Trump isn't really any different in terms of this sort of stuff (criminal justice reform, price controls on pharmaceuticals) but for whatever reason people think this is something totally new for the Republicans. The only real difference is the emphasis on culture war and that Trump is more obvious in terms of how he's self serving.
supported some form of healthcare reform
ive actually seen people saying that since romney invented obamacare he's good
The truth is every president or broader political figure does some good things and a lot of bad things.
It's just that most people aren't as politically engaged as people here are and have far too short of a memory on the bad things. They're more concerned with everyone just getting along because they're already materially comfortable.
why, i thought they liked Romney after he voted for that thing in the senate
...weird, I actually don’t remember what the hell they impeached trump for lol
lmaoooooooooo WHY IS THE REPUBLICAN...
DOING REPUBLICAN THINGS!!! NOO!!!!
2010 was also just a turning point for the Republicans, they used to be just like the democrats in terms of contempt for their own base. They used to be a liberal institutionalist party like the democrats are and would constantly bitchout democrats for being norm breakers for filibustering judges or things like that, and Romney still fits into that camp (it's just the party leadership didn't really understand what had happened yet in 2012).
The thing is though, Romney is still a religious zellot, he's never going to switch parties, it's just that the part of the Republican base the party has contempt towards has shifted. People like Pete Buttigieg that make direct appeals to suburban liberal christians will be successful in a way they wouldn't have been when the Republicans had a softer tone.
The thing is though, the tea party actually won. They took over like 100 seats via primaries against incumbents, something that was much more possible than it is for the left re: the democrats as Republican primary turnout is often far lower for non presidential elections, better financed alternative media, and so on. If the left was able to flip 30 dem incumbent seats in a single cycle from incumbents I promise you that the party would shift, it's just that this didn't happen in 2018 when the conditions for such seemed to be the closest match to what Republicans had done, I'd imagine had any single senator lost their seat to a primary challenger we'd have seen something very different but that hasn't happened at all yet. The tea party flipped 9 senate seats in a single cycle.
I imagine many of them are telling themselves “McCain wouldn’t have done this” lol
Sen. John McCain (R-Ariz) said Monday that if Hillary Clinton is elected, Republicans will unite to block anyone she nominates to the Supreme Court.
https://www.npr.org/2016/10/17/498328520/sen-mccain-says-republicans-will-block-all-court-nominations-if-clinton-wins
Rich guy: acts in his own class-interest.
Libs: "why did he do the thing? Will this ever be explained?"
End me now.
i am not going to lie, i thought after voting to impeach trump and going to blm protest he was gonna switch parties aswell. I'm under no illusion that would've made him good, but there are a lot of shitty dems out there. what's one mitt romney? still, not a huge shock my prediction didn't come true lol
Libs in Utah are constantly falling over themselves to suck Mitt's toes for his acts of theater like voting to impeach Trump or marching with BLM, but the fact is his actions never back up these performances. He's a multi millionaire Mormon Republican, he's always going to rule in favor of his class interests. It stuns me that people are fooled by him.
The democratic voters in the state are a tiny fraction of the people there and are generally speaking younger than the general US population. The older mormons are all registered republicans and aren't voting in any sort of democratic primary.
But they dont care about policy. Saying trump is bad is enough to get back in the libs good graces, so I thought he was posturing to switch to the Democratic party meanwhile changing nothing about his policies. It's been a fantastic grift for others, I think it would've worked for him.
He’s able to be more anti trump because Mormons are one of the few right wing Christian groups that actually don’t like Trump, but Romney still will follow the GOP line.
He's able to be anti trump because there's a mormon prophecy about political advancements of the Romney family among others in US politics. People are voting for that, not for anything ideological.
and we rewarded him for it, hopefully the rest get the message
I don't think he's the only one, but he's the only one where it's actually mattered in an electoral sense. There are a few people in the house who've become more radicalized in their approach to these things although like is the case with republicans under Trump, it was really what they always believed, but feared the consequences of speaking up.
Romney is a religious zellot with ties to the very top of the Mormon Church. Him winning the presidency was supposed to fulfill some major religious prophecy for them. He's a conservative through and through, if anything it would be easier to change his outlook on issues of the economy than it would on many of these social issues.
It's really just that the ways in which he's a moderate have simply just flown out the window during the Trump years for the rest of the party. The previous analysis was to move away from chauvinistic rhetoric but the opposite happened.
Nothing big. Bidet was considering Momney for his cabinet position IIRC.
