• Chapo0114 [comrade/them, he/him]
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        4 years ago

        So, as a former Warren supporter (was leftist at the time just thought she Wonked better than Bernie and so could get "healthcare plz" at least, along with the wealth tax) someone successfully spread the belief among Warren-stans that Bernie is sexist and announced his run after her to keep a woman from becoming president and other such nonsense. They honestly (if bafflingly) believe Bernie is "the patriarchy" and hostile, but then libbrain makes them oppose Trump and so Biden it is.

        • throwawaylemmy [none/use name]
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          4 years ago

          just thought she Wonked better than Bernie and so could get “healthcare plz” at least,

          ...Was this before or after her kicking the can down the road for M4A? Legit asking, no shade.

          • Chapo0114 [comrade/them, he/him]
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            4 years ago

            Before, she lost my support long before she dropped out as soon as she started being more dem and less progressive.

    • gayhobbes [he/him]
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      4 years ago

      There's a lot of libs going left, they're just not extremely prominent.

    • hogposting [he/him,comrade/them]
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      4 years ago

      It’s kinda telling that it’s like… just the two of them.

      It's not surprising that there are only two blue checks who've evolved like that -- the money and career opportunities are all in not evolving an inch beyond Democratic party orthodoxy. Hopefully those two are a sign that libs with less to lose from going left are doing so in significant numbers.

    • AFineWayToDie [he/him]
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      4 years ago

      Online is the entire world to them. They tweet liberal troll-bait that no self-respecting leftist could resist, and assume that therefore that there must be millions of them in the country when they get dunked on.

  • Darkmatter2k [none/use name]
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    4 years ago

    We own your vote! It's called democracy, theres only 2 choices and we're the good guys! you have to vote for us!

    • joshieecs [he/him,any]
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      4 years ago

      the number of parties doesn't actually say much about the quality of the democracy. you can have a one-party state that is also a vigorously democrat. you can have a multi-party system the 3 parties, 4, 5... idk maybe up to 7 or 8 on the scoreboard. especially with proportional representation.

      most leftists accept the one-party can be democratic (not that is always is, but that is can be), and of course, that 3 or more can be democratic.
      but somehow 2, well that is one is always just a rotten duopoly that needs to be broken up somehow.
      but you will never do it as long as there is first-past-the-post and winner-take-all. are will always be two-party. not even really parties, more like lanes to run in. loose coalitions of caucuses that in a multi-party system wouldn't even be allied.

      but what makes it still democrat is that we have robust government-run primary elections, that is where most of the democracy actually happens.

    • SacredExcrement [any, comrade/them]
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      4 years ago

      Right? As if moving further left is a 'bizarre' happenstance, rather than a very explainable progression, given the current political climate we're in (and the precipice we appear to be careening off of)

      • penguin_von_doom [she/her]
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        4 years ago

        Nooo, you don't understand. As you get older you should get more conservative. Cause if you're not a lib when you're twenty you got no heart but if you're not a conservative when you're 40 you have no brain, and things change when you grow up and have to take care of a family and so on, I'm out of stupid clichés ...

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      4 years ago

      Telling people things you disagree with is cringe is just a weird attempt to bully them via social pressure. If you don't like what I'm doing, just say it. Don't be passive aggressive.

      • joshieecs [he/him,any]
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        thesis: that thing is cringe

        antithesis: to call a thing cringe, is an act of bullying and is passive-aggressive

        synthesis: passive-aggressive bullying by means of cringe: "the thing that is cringe" is the claim that "to call a thing cringe, is an act of bullying and is passive-aggressive"

        we are each both the bullier and the bullied, caught in a never-ending cycle of cringe,

        • gayhobbes [he/him]
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          4 years ago

          Nah it's just a shitty way to tell someone you don't like what they said by trying to invoke some sort of shame by exposure argument. It only seems to work on younger people because I'm too old to give a fuck.

        • butt [they/them]
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          4 years ago

          You've forgotten the moral imperative and have, thusly, posted cringe

      • ComradeAndy [he/him]
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        4 years ago

        Im not being tangential. You are calling Ryan a radlib, like who the fuck cares enough to make the distinction apparent?

        • gayhobbes [he/him]
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          4 years ago

          Because he's hardly even radicalized and the libs can't even handle that, which is the point. What's the point in telling me it's cringe?

  • RNAi [he/him]
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    4 years ago

    If I vote for Trump, I'm not voting Third Party so I'm helping Biden.

    • gayhobbes [he/him]
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      4 years ago

      It's a reference to when Whitney Houston was accused of doing cocaine, she asked Diane Sawyer to show the receipts for her nearly million dollar coke habit. And it's been a saying ever since.

        • gayhobbes [he/him]
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          4 years ago

          Like almost everything cool, it appears to have originated with trans women of color where it got picked up by queer men of color and then white queer men and people of color and then the white straights, once again, ruined it.

          • throwawaylemmy [none/use name]
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            4 years ago

            I don't think it's ALL white straights, just white straight LIBERALS. "YASSSS QUEEN" was ruined by them.

  • PorkrollPosadist [he/him, they/them]
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    4 years ago

    I had to unfollow Ryan because he retweets so much self promotional shit I never see anything else on my timeline. He's alright though.

    • gayhobbes [he/him]
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      4 years ago

      Yeah, I mean, it's his full time shit. I hate how much people have to self promote to keep their shit seen.

    • Tupamaros [he/him]
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      4 years ago

      Imagine democratically participating in an election. It's only fair if your candidate is forced on you.

  • Will2Live [he/him]
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    4 years ago

    white gay voice: i got the receipts, spill the hot tea at high noon sis, keep that shade in ya purse gurl ya dig?

    • gayhobbes [he/him]
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      4 years ago

      That's some sort of plugin he's using, no clue what it is.