@MindTraveller@lemmy.ca putting out some transphobic as fuck posts recently

  • Yor [she/her]
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    5 months ago

    If the USA elects a fascist president, there is guaranteed to be multiple genocides of society’s most vulnerable groups, in addition to what the US is already doing in Gaza

    it's okay to vote in support of genocide as long as it benefits me omori-manic

    • roux [he/him, they/them]
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      5 months ago

      If the USA elects a fascist president, there is guaranteed to be multiple genocides of society’s most vulnerable groups, in addition to what the US is already doing in Gaza

      astronaut-1

  • Łumało [he/him]@lemmygrad.ml
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    5 months ago

    Don't they like... scold us for power tripping and "authoritarianism"? They want a whole community GONE just because they don't agree with it on the premise of not voting. Because leftists famously defeated fascism by the :vote:

  • citrussy_capybara [ze/hir]
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    5 months ago

    I made the post to shit on liberals. Hexbear is just the best example I could come up with of a liberal instance.

    jesse-wtf

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    • Zuzak [fae/faer, she/her]
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      I've talked to them, and they are an Anarcho-Bidenist and also the most ultra of ultras. They're so idealist that they believe reality can literally be reshaped on a fundamental level just by belief, so anyone who doesn't take that approach to create a perfect utopia is a liberal, and also transphobic because your vibes are the only thing stopping otherkin from physically transforming into dragons and shit. Oh, but also, you have to vote for Biden while you're imagining this utopia, and that's not liberal because reasons, and if you don't then you're transphobic, but also they'll make jokes about trans suicide and if you tell them it's inappropriate or offensive then you just don't get it, because you're stupid.

      I tried to explain it but I think I just made it even more jesse-wtf

    • silent_water [she/her]
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      5 months ago

      it's true, we're all liberals here, except me, the one true leftist.

    • ShimmeringKoi [comrade/them]
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      5 months ago

      Not just to support it, but to pretend they're the good guys actually and they have to make the heroic hard choice to support this genocide because they're the adults in the room.

      It's not enough for them to just support a genocide and lie about it. They still need to be condescending little pricks the entire time. They still need to believe that they're the smartest and most loyal little good citizens around.

      The final humiliation and fall from relevance cannot come soon enough for these smarmy nazi fucks.

    • CyberSyndicalist [none/use name]
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      5 months ago

      well I'll give them one thing; at least they admit they don't have any interest in an accurate perception of reality which is more than can be said for liberals

    • ashinadash [she/her]
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      5 months ago

      just by actively resisting any time realism tries to intrude

      Too on the nose, must be a bit agony-deep

    • ExotiqueMatter@lemmygrad.ml
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      5 months ago

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      An ideology that says stuff like this can't possibly used as justification to cause terrible suffering right?

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    • WittyProfileName2 [she/her]
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      5 months ago

      I hate to swing these accusations around but...

      Join a climate, queer, or indigenous protest group. Attend local council meetings. Start a cult.

      Swerving into an established political group and trying to morph it into an aggressively sectarian, niche ideology sounds like some spy cop shit. Like, that's one of the ways British cops would try to force splits in communist orgs back when communism had political relevancy in Britain.

      Not saying this is what's going on here, but that's the vibe I'm getting.

    • tamagotchicowboy [he/him]
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      5 months ago

      I wish sociology was mandated in schools, and if not that at least a fucking art class that makes you mold/sculpt a project into your ideas, and resulting ideas from your interaction with hard reality into your project.

    • ShimmeringKoi [comrade/them]
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      5 months ago

      Oh OK, this person is a federal employee. Hey fellow kids, don't you know the most cool and leftist you can be is to disregard notions of consensus reality. Why get literally anything done when you could be building a tower of Babel to render meaningless the language of our common struggle? Egoism is good now! Fuck revolution, start a cult, all the coolest cats are just waiting in line to repeat the failures of the 60s and 70s.

      Why yes our ultimate goal is to levitate the Pentagon, how did you guess?

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    • kristina [she/her]
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      5 months ago

      Omfg they're doing scientology but with heavens gate aesthetics

  • good_girl [she/her, they/them]
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    5 months ago

    When I saw the original post I had to check if OP was a 196 poster (they are) and I found this gem:

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    The brainworms are terminal I'm afraid.

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    They really love this image, they posted it multiple times in comments.

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    Whatever this person's deal is to be this way, I hope their situation improves, because it's kind of unsettling.

    • robinnn
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      5 months ago

      The dialectical materialism bit gave my multiple aneurysms. These relationships ("social constructs") are a result of the material! Are they honestly saying that they think this "social construct" has no cause but just is because of itself?

      When the slave owner oppresses the slave, or a capitalist the worker, his ability to do so is because of his possession of materials (farm and factory) not his possession of materials because of his oppression except in continuation. Or put another way, commodities are sold after the worker is given their wage, so how does the capitalist initially pay the worker? He must have capital to start! This all returns to the material situations these groups found themselves in and how this progressed.

      There is a common misunderstanding of dialectical materialism where people forget the dialectical aspect and point out any example of ideas giving rise to action as disproof. Dialectical materialism flips Hegel's subject-object dialectic which regards the subject (ideas and the like) as primary into a subject-object dialectic where the object (matter) is primary, or object-subject dialectic. The material gives rise to ideas in the human mind, which then are transformed into material action, or for another example, national culture is at first the product of natural conditions, then later asserts itself upon those conditions through human action. The argument this person makes goes: "By skipping one step chronologically the entire dialectic is flipped again and the ideal is the primary aspect, the material secondary! Did I just disprove dialectical materialism?"

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          5 months ago

          Hmm, so you have ideas that if carried out would cause change in the material? Waiter! Waiter! One cup of Marxist tears please! I guess we’ve found something more universal than mere matter!

  • ashinadash [she/her]
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    5 months ago

    Y'know, literally just yesterday I was thinking, 'Huh, how 'bout that shark instance? Maybe I should make an account and go fuck around, see if I can create some new T-34 crew or smth'.

    I guess I will not agony-wholesome Ada's response isn't too bad but the thread is a shitshow lol. Daily reminder never to venture anywhere outside of hexbear.

    Also the libertyhub comm at a glance just seems like a shitty micro hexbear lmao

    • good_girl [she/her, they/them]
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      5 months ago

      Also the libertyhub comm at a glance just seems like a shitty micro hexbear lmao

      Pretty much. The head mod is still somehow "anti-tankie." Cool enough guy but still has some liberal adjacent apprehensions.

      • ashinadash [she/her]
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        5 months ago

        What flavour of "leftism" is that? Is that like anarchist sectarianism...? limmy-what

  • EllenKelly [comrade/them]
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    5 months ago

    Seeing them double down in how its okay to joke about telling trans people to self harm is nice, that whole instance is so weird

  • WittyProfileName2 [she/her]
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    5 months ago

    @Socsa@sh.itjust.works

    That’s my thesis though. These are actual bigots and trolls painting themselves pink.

    The fact that Blahaj has this dickhead in the comments accusing trans people of lying about their identity and hasn't been given the ol' barbara-pit treatment. cringe

  • ExotiqueMatter@lemmygrad.ml
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    5 months ago

    The rabid radlibs (D) are all like "There is no such thing as a leftist/trans person who think Biden is just as bad as Trump, every leftist/trans person agree with me and the ones who don't agree with me are fake in some way. brainworms

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    This is the Blue Qanon conspiracy theory: all true leftists agree with them, leftists who disagree with them don't exist therefore leftists who disagree with them are a conspiracy created by the Kremlin/CCP/MAGA/whatever to subvert the "true" left.

    This is how they cope when actual leftists confront them with their own contradictions and hypocrisy, in order to get rid of the cognitive dissonance they pretend that they are the farthest left and that peoples farther left don't exist, that way they don't have to actually debate with us and can dismiss us as trolls, LLMs or whatever else, and more importantly, that allow them to continue pretending that the contradictions and hypocrisy we point at is not there and to convince themselves that they don't need to reevaluate their politics.

    They are so convinced of this conspiracy theory that they use it unironically to try to "convert" others. But

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    it doesn't work very well on peoples who aren't already convinced blue MAGA radlibs, and anyone outside the blue MAGA cult who are starting to be radicalized by the actions of genocide Joe are far more likely to be pushed away from the rad lib crowd by these bozo's rambling about how peoples who disagree with them aren't real than to be convinced by it
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    This is my theory about the liberal way of thinking when confronted to peoples to their left. What do you think? Maybe I'll make a dedicated post about this.