This policy lays out what counts as conscientious objection and the process for filing as a CO. I suggest your friend get on it ASAP.
https://www.centeronconscience.org/files/DODI_2017.pdf
Nobody's gonna get a dishonorable for quitting the guard. If it's anything like the reserve, they'll just give them a general, other than honorable discharge, at worst. AWOL's only really for if they're on continuous title 10 orders or some shit. Dishonorable discharge is for if you get kicked out over essentially a criminal offense.
I'm sorry, I was a bit rash in my earlier post. Unfortunately I can only speak confidently on shit that pertains to the army reserve and not the army national guard. I'm assuming the policies are very similar, but I also realize that each state can also establish their own policies as far as how harshly to punish guardsmen who fail to report for duty, whether it's on a typical drill weekend, or if it's for an activation under title 10/32 orders.
Honestly, in my time as a commander for my reserve unit, anytime I had a soldier fail to report for duty, I'd just excuse them or whatever. The most I could do was try to process them for separation under a general, other than honorable discharge.
For the guard, it's an entirely different animal - similar, but different. There's way too many different variables, so I'll just hold off on conjecture and say that the resources others have provided are good avenues to go with.
Yeah it's always a terrible decision to make and it's their prerogative, but as someone who has spoken to people conscripted into the military against their will who ended up fighting against protestors, they still refuse to talk about what happened. I think they would have chosen differently knowing what they know now. Just make sure your friend doesn't make a decision they will regret for a long time.
Your friend better quit or figure out something fast before they end up enabling fascism
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I expect they would throw everything possible as her legally speaking, if she did that.
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This policy lays out what counts as conscientious objection and the process for filing as a CO. I suggest your friend get on it ASAP. https://www.centeronconscience.org/files/DODI_2017.pdf
Nobody's gonna get a dishonorable for quitting the guard. If it's anything like the reserve, they'll just give them a general, other than honorable discharge, at worst. AWOL's only really for if they're on continuous title 10 orders or some shit. Dishonorable discharge is for if you get kicked out over essentially a criminal offense.
Yep. Fall a drug test and take your general. Worked for me to get out of army contract.
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there are veteran groups explicitly set up to help people quit. Look at some of the early episodes of "Eyes Left" they used to mention them a lot.
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GI Resistance Working Group Coordinators
Russell Brown, hobadoxa@mac.com Gerry Condon, projectsafehaven@hotmail.com
Contact this working group at: giresistance@veteransforpeace.org
vfp@veteransforpeace.org or feedback@veteransforpeace.org (314) 725-6005 (office) (314) 227-1981 (fax)
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I hope they are helpful!!!
I'm sorry, I was a bit rash in my earlier post. Unfortunately I can only speak confidently on shit that pertains to the army reserve and not the army national guard. I'm assuming the policies are very similar, but I also realize that each state can also establish their own policies as far as how harshly to punish guardsmen who fail to report for duty, whether it's on a typical drill weekend, or if it's for an activation under title 10/32 orders.
Honestly, in my time as a commander for my reserve unit, anytime I had a soldier fail to report for duty, I'd just excuse them or whatever. The most I could do was try to process them for separation under a general, other than honorable discharge.
For the guard, it's an entirely different animal - similar, but different. There's way too many different variables, so I'll just hold off on conjecture and say that the resources others have provided are good avenues to go with.
Yeah it's always a terrible decision to make and it's their prerogative, but as someone who has spoken to people conscripted into the military against their will who ended up fighting against protestors, they still refuse to talk about what happened. I think they would have chosen differently knowing what they know now. Just make sure your friend doesn't make a decision they will regret for a long time.
They better figure something the fuck out then
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