You should read Gender Outlaw and then the Gender Accelerationist Manifesto to discover that gender is fuckin fake shit. I found I stressed a lot less about this stuff after my brain got reprogrammed by funny gender theory.
The label stuff, I mean "Why would I be upset by that?" You just read Fucking Trans Women right? Before I read that I hadn't considered this either, but people will use all kinds of labels for any part of themselves if it makes em feel good. A lot of the time the usual terms for assigned-male anatomy are very fucking associated with "man". Still my favourite Transfemme® Genital™ Label is "aubergine", I snorted.
As for the other stuff... I am The Autistic and I really relate to your utter bewilderment at the social/gender stuff, very real. Did you know that allegedly [citation needed] [sometimes] nodding your head at someone is a masc-gendered action???? Whereas I guess a small wave would be the femme move??? Expectations and perception of gender shit are so goddamn confusing as someone with autism. I have heard that many autistic people end up agender or sometimes none biney =)
I've always seen the "woman" vs "girl" thing as being a maturity marker, and sometimes dudes get misogynistic with it? But none of it makes any sense really. I try not to stress about it.
I have heard that many autistic people end up agender or sometimes none biney =)
Why can’t nuerotypicals see through the bullshit. I guess like ADHDers seeing through capitalism. Neurotypicals are silly. Being molded by society (Ik we’re all made by our material conditions).
Neurotypicals are FUCKIN silly!!! We are all the product of our material conditions, but that doesn't mean we are subservient to them the way neuronormos are =)
I had just pulled up the Gender Accelerationist Manifesto, I will add the gender outlaw to my reading list (yes I read theory, no not marx). I hope I can get less stressed the thoughts they don't stop
I once again did not explain myself well. I understand why someone would be upset now, but that was not my first thought. I had never considered calling it anything else.
So I knew nodding was masc, but I did not realize a small wave was femme. I have now made a mental note to start giving people small waves . I have definitely thought about the label non binary woman, but it is too confusing for me to really explain. But yes I could totally see autistic people doing that.
No none of it makes sense I am done with it all. Sounds like I might be over thinking it though.
Its not goin, I haven't said anything about it. I do wonder if autism would fit me better then avpd though. I should get my therapist to explain the difference.
Nice, it slaps! You should also read Marx tho Thoughts not stopping is tough...
Ohhh okay that's fine! Well, welcome to the wider world where labels are just labels and you can call things whatever cool stuff you want!!
Yeah that's what I did, lmao. I try to opt out of gendered shit as much as possible, Idk how that's going since I have a 1 in Perception... Being done with it is cool, overthinking is stressful.
I know I was just goofin, but your experience and thoughts do mirror mine a lot, so I'm kinda feelin that you mentioned autism yourself. Would def be worth looking into.
I wondered if that's how you would react. I should, I feel like a lot of things would make sense within that framework (like getting over stimulated/burned out)
I don’t like labels. Call me NB or whatever you want if I like it.
I definitely got ADHD and I got most of the ASD symptoms among other things, though I don’t have that much social difficulty? I just don’t fit in anywhere.
I was always seen as "mature for my age" but I never felt like I wanted to fit in either, especially around peers I didn't enjoy being around, I knew I was different to them and seen as a joke or weird to others. Being bullied and such didn't help either for how I looked in school and well life at home wasn't good either so I was alienated growing up and well when you leave school and have no friends it is hard to make new friends and I've spent more of my life alone than not.. it's just hard to find good friends irl
Labels are highly variable and can have different meanings per person, honestly I think you just gotta take em as they come and try not to stress. Ask for clarification, I do a lot.
Yeah, I'm in a weird space where I can pass as a woman pretty well but my unusual manner of dress (function over form, comfort cause autistic) and unusual demeanor sometimes throw people off, it's funny tbh. I think they see "Woman But Scary" which is not wholly inaccurate. I am pretty comfy causing Gender Problems!!
It's cool that you reached that conclusion on your own honestly, parsing things through the autism lens made my day to day a lot easier. Also there is a high commorbidity of trans and autism!!!
I have heard that many autistic people end up agender or sometimes none biney =)
The first time I heard about someone coming out as trans was not long after high school. A not-close friend came out as a woman and moved to California or something. I hadn't really talked with her since high school, so only heard indirectly from others. At the time, I basically knew nothing about trans people and this was at least a decade ago. Anyways, I was confused how she could be autistic and actually believe in gender enough to use a label like "woman". Wish I had known agender was an option back then.
This post fucks
I think it's rad.
You should read Gender Outlaw and then the Gender Accelerationist Manifesto to discover that gender is fuckin fake shit. I found I stressed a lot less about this stuff after my brain got reprogrammed by funny gender theory.
The label stuff, I mean "Why would I be upset by that?" You just read Fucking Trans Women right? Before I read that I hadn't considered this either, but people will use all kinds of labels for any part of themselves if it makes em feel good. A lot of the time the usual terms for assigned-male anatomy are very fucking associated with "man". Still my favourite Transfemme® Genital™ Label is "aubergine", I snorted.
As for the other stuff... I am The Autistic and I really relate to your utter bewilderment at the social/gender stuff, very real. Did you know that allegedly [citation needed] [sometimes] nodding your head at someone is a masc-gendered action???? Whereas I guess a small wave would be the femme move??? Expectations and perception of gender shit are so goddamn confusing as someone with autism. I have heard that many autistic people end up agender or sometimes none biney =)
I've always seen the "woman" vs "girl" thing as being a maturity marker, and sometimes dudes get misogynistic with it? But none of it makes any sense really. I try not to stress about it.
So uh how's the autism dx goin'?
Why can’t nuerotypicals see through the bullshit. I guess like ADHDers seeing through capitalism. Neurotypicals are silly. Being molded by society (Ik we’re all made by our material conditions).
Neurotypicals are FUCKIN silly!!! We are all the product of our material conditions, but that doesn't mean we are subservient to them the way neuronormos are =)
I had just pulled up the Gender Accelerationist Manifesto, I will add the gender outlaw to my reading list (yes I read theory, no not marx). I hope I can get less stressed
the thoughts they don't stop
I once again did not explain myself well. I understand why someone would be upset now, but that was not my first thought. I had never considered calling it anything else.
So I knew nodding was masc, but I did not realize a small wave was femme. I have now made a mental note to start giving people small waves
. I have definitely thought about the label non binary woman, but it is too confusing for me to really explain. But yes I could totally see autistic people doing that.
No none of it makes sense I am done with it all. Sounds like I might be over thinking it though.
Its not goin, I haven't said anything about it. I do wonder if autism would fit me better then avpd though. I should get my therapist to explain the difference.
Nice, it slaps! You should also read Marx tho
Thoughts not stopping is tough...
Ohhh okay that's fine! Well, welcome to the wider world where labels are just labels and you can call things whatever cool stuff you want!!
Yeah that's what I did, lmao. I try to opt out of gendered shit as much as possible, Idk how that's going since I have a 1 in Perception... Being done with it is cool, overthinking is stressful.
I know I was just goofin, but your experience and thoughts do mirror mine a lot, so I'm kinda feelin
that you mentioned autism yourself. Would def be worth looking into.
Labels are so hard to understand though![ohnoes ohnoes](https://www.hexbear.net/pictrs/image/9d5590b8-c1ae-488d-9efc-d7db54dce851.png)
I wondered if that's how you would react. I should, I feel like a lot of things would make sense within that framework (like getting over stimulated/burned out)
I don’t like labels. Call me NB or whatever you want if I like it.
I definitely got ADHD and I got most of the ASD symptoms among other things, though I don’t have that much social difficulty? I just don’t fit in anywhere.
Story of my life
I don’t want to be stupid or immature or conformist enough to fit in, I could just use more irl friends that are interesting.
I was always seen as "mature for my age" but I never felt like I wanted to fit in either, especially around peers I didn't enjoy being around, I knew I was different to them and seen as a joke or weird to others. Being bullied and such didn't help either for how I looked in school and well life at home wasn't good either so I was alienated growing up and well when you leave school and have no friends it is hard to make new friends and I've spent more of my life alone than not.. it's just hard to find good friends irl
Same but better circumstances.
Labels are highly variable and can have different meanings per person, honestly I think you just gotta take em as they come and try not to stress. Ask for clarification, I do a lot.![cat-trans cat-trans](https://www.hexbear.net/pictrs/image/27c31b53-f2dc-45c4-b222-fb11bdcf9d91.png)
Yeah,
I'm in a weird space where I can pass as a woman pretty well but my unusual manner of dress (function over form, comfort cause autistic) and unusual demeanor sometimes throw people off, it's funny tbh. I think they see "Woman But Scary" which is not wholly inaccurate. I am pretty comfy causing Gender Problems!!
It's cool that you reached that conclusion on your own honestly, parsing things through the autism lens made my day to day a lot easier. Also there is a high commorbidity of trans and autism!!!
I dress a little weird, but it’s very colorful and fashionable in an idiosyncratic way.
Banger![bocchi-party bocchi-party](https://hexbear.net/pictrs/image/4f12a841-93f7-4e00-9766-e351e3267041.gif)
Yeah, I like [trans]fem NB/NB-girl. I usually just go neutral tho.
transphobia?
The first time I heard about someone coming out as trans was not long after high school. A not-close friend came out as a woman and moved to California or something. I hadn't really talked with her since high school, so only heard indirectly from others. At the time, I basically knew nothing about trans people and this was at least a decade ago. Anyways, I was confused how she could be autistic and actually believe in gender enough to use a label like "woman". Wish I had known agender was an option back then.
Lol, lmao even =)