• ShinkanTrain@lemmy.ml
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    1 month ago

    It must have been really hard for gamers to do that side quest where Geraldo of Rivia says racism is bad

        • nothx [he/him]
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          1 month ago

          Most gamers turn off the subtitles because seeing words makes them feel bad about not knowing how to read.

      • Tomboymoder [she/her, it/its]
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        1 month ago

        I don’t understand people who go the Roche route literally just because the choice to get onto it involves Geralt just keeping the elf dudes sword away from him like a dick when Roche shows up out of the blue.

        It just felt like such a weird choice to make to me. Like why should Geralt give a shit? I was just like here have your sword and go fight each other I guess.

        • thethirdgracchi [he/him, they/them]
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          1 month ago

          I have to imagine a lot of it is weird brainworms about "nonviolence" despite playing a game where you slaughter people willy nilly.

          • Tomboymoder [she/her, it/its]
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            1 month ago

            maybe I was already too leftist when I played the game because keeping the sword from the elvish freedom fighter while the dude attacks him just seems petty and dickish and obviously taking a side in the conflict on the side of Roche.

            Geralt has already stated he doesn’t really care about their quarrel, so just giving the dude his sword and let whatever happens happen just seemed like the more neutral (and less assholeish) of a move.

            • thethirdgracchi [he/him, they/them]
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              1 month ago

              It's another trolley problem type thing; if you don't give him the sword you're obviously taking a side and just letting him die but you can pretend that you're not responsible; if you give him the sword you're in some sense "responsible" for whatever happens next, mainly that one of those two people is probably going to get killed. You're responsible in either instance, but it's easier to delude yourself you're not in the first.

          • Tomboymoder [she/her, it/its]
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            1 month ago

            Oh you might be right, I think the choice I am thinking of just determines whether the pogrom happens or how it happens??
            Idk it’s been some time since I played, I also remember the choice you are talking about tho.

            • PolandIsAStateOfMind@lemmygrad.ml
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              1 month ago

              I remember this pretty weakly. I think the pogrom starts anyway but you have the option to help Iorweth save some people or go to Roche and do nothing.

              • Tomboymoder [she/her, it/its]
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                1 month ago

                I think if you side with the Elf guy the public reacts more negatively (some how) and is more violent to the nonhumans in retaliation?
                Maybe cause more humans die in the original fight, idk.

      • peeonyou [he/him]
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        1 month ago

        damn.. i never played the 2nd one.. the first was fucking amazing and so was the 3rd but when the 2nd came out i didn't have a computer that could play it and so i just forgot about it

    • KobaCumTribute [she/her]
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      1 month ago

      that side quest

      I feel like "Geralt turns to the camera and says 'the real monsters are cruel and intolerant men'" happens in a good ten percent of the quests, both side and main.

      • CommunistCuddlefish [she/her]
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        1 month ago

        The books and the games are actually quite good, there's a reason they got so big in Poland. See this synthesis of other comments:

        "It must have been really hard for gamers to do that side quest where Geraldo of Rivia says racism is bad."
        "Or when Ciri is canonically bisexual. Or how the Witcher 2 is about a guerilla movement for national liberation."
        "I feel like "Geralt turns to the camera and says 'the real monsters are cruel and intolerant men'" happens in a good ten percent of the quests, both side and main."

        I don't think Andrzej Sapkwoski is explicitly leftist but the stories would get ripped apart by the anti-woke crowd if they were first released today instead of in the 80s, and no I don't think this is just cope to defend a story I found deeply meaningful. Geralt's character arc in the original short stories and books is about going from a jaded bitter individualist "why should I ever stick my neck out for anyone else" to "I will fucking eviscerate anyone from the dominant social group who tries to pogrom these ethnic minorities".

        Chuds just have exactly 0 media literacy skills so they see white man and think "omg he's just like me" when his position in society is actually to be persecuted, scapegoated, and given the shittiest of shit-work to the point where he multiple times has to go into the shit-filled sewers just to earn money for food.

        I mean I had no interest in the Netflix show because it looked horribly done, not because Big Woke woked all over it or whatever the chuds said

        • PolandIsAStateOfMind@lemmygrad.ml
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          1 month ago

          I don’t think Andrzej Sapkwoski is explicitly leftist

          He's a weird dude who is a chud and an asshole, but for some reason he at least was explicitly antiracist when wrote the books. Ultimately, i would count him as a lib because his solutions to racism and national liberation are liberal.

          • CommunistCuddlefish [she/her]
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            1 month ago

            Too bad he's a chud and a lib but I guess irl people's politics can be quite idiosyncratic, I appreciate the explicit antiracism.

            I guess I heard he wrote a book about some soldier in Afghanistan and not on the side fighting against occupation so that can't be a good sign.

            • PolandIsAStateOfMind@lemmygrad.ml
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              1 month ago

              he wrote a book about some soldier in Afghanistan

              I didn't read that one because even the back cover summary makes it explicitly anticommunist. He also engaged in some character assassination of Geralt when in Season of Storms he wrote a story when Geralt (CW SA, pedo) completely ignores when some dude try to rape a kitsune's daughter literally 5 meters from him with a reason for inactivity being obviously that the rapist is human and victim is not.

              • CommunistCuddlefish [she/her]
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                1 month ago

                To the first, I guess I can see why some Poles in his generation would have a complicated relationship with Communism but yeah I have absolutely 0 interest in reading that.

                To the second, wow what the actual fuck, way to lose touch with who the character he created even is. It's not the first time an author has revisited some story they wrote when they were younger and showed they've completely forgotten who the character was at core by making them suddenly rabidly conservative. I actually got a copy of that book but hadn't gotten around to reading it because by the time it got translated and arrived I was focused on other stuff.

                Have you read his Hussite trilogy? I was stoked to try reading them years ago but they hadn't been translated to my language yet and by the time they were I was fixating on other things so I still haven't gotten around to them. The reddit crowd says they're even better than the witcher, but reddit leans reddit-logo so I don't necessarily take anything they say seriously.

                • PolandIsAStateOfMind@lemmygrad.ml
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                  1 month ago

                  I can see why some Poles in his generation would have a complicated relationship with Communism

                  They don't have anything complicated. Writers just opportunistically flipped the flag the moment system changed. Literally entire art community in Poland did, that's why i have zero respect for them and wish them happy getting fucked up by AI like we workers are fucked up every automation round. Maybe they finally will find some class solidarity which they never had at all.

                  Have you read his Hussite trilogy?

                  Yes. As always he manages to create vibrant and believable (pseudo)late-medieval setting and some good characters, but the trilogy is hard case of the trilogy-burnout syndrome with the 1st book being excellent, 2nd mid and 3rd taking nosedive.

                  • CommunistCuddlefish [she/her]
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                    1 month ago

                    Writers just opportunistically flipped the flag the moment system changed. Literally entire art community in Poland did, that's why i have zero respect for them and wish them happy getting fucked up by AI like we workers are fucked up every automation round. Maybe they finally will find some class solidarity which they never had at all.

                    Wow that's disappointing, thank you for sharing that. That's so pathetic to just not have any ideals and opportunistically do a 180 on a dime like that.

                    Sucks the trilogy syndrome hit that series too. Idk if I'll bother then, I like a story to be self-contained and if the ending ruins it I'd sometimes rather not even get invested. At this point "trilogy" is so overplayed and leads to needless bloat, a series being a trilogy is a red flag

      • Bloobish [comrade/them]
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        1 month ago

        The fanbase is just another example of "curtain is blue and there's no other meaning" brainworms even though the game has quite a lot of interesting themes going on

  • GrouchyGrouse [he/him]
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    1 month ago

    You can tell I'm a grown ass man because the thing I fear and hate is called Sweet Baby

  • Rojo27 [he/him]
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    1 month ago

    Ah so this is what passes for a "meme" on reddit-logo

  • daniyeg@lemmy.ml
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    1 month ago

    I swear to god if i see the names of john woke or jane gender in the credits im gonna be SO PISSED OFF that i will assassinate the prime minister of israel Benjamin Netanyahu.

  • HexBeara [none/use name]
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    1 month ago

    On one hand corporate souless rainbow washing bad, on the other, gamers mad about diversity make me hapi. LET THEM FIGHT! (Thereby driving up pr and sales, muhahahaha!)

  • ProletarianDictator [none/use name]
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    1 month ago

    opsec tip: if you vote on a social media post that you screenshot to post here, crop out your vote or screenshot before voting. Don't accidentally tie your hexbear account to corporate spyware that likely knows your IRL identity.

    • peeonyou [he/him]
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      1 month ago

      in all honesty they have a hundred other ways to track what you're doing beyond screenshots.. but i guess it never hurts to not help them out

  • DamarcusArt@lemmygrad.ml
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    1 month ago

    Surely gamergate chuds would've gotten sick of the exact same fearmongering just being repackaged over and over. Though who am I kidding? If it were up to them, every single game would be exactly the same.