Sending good vibes to all of my trans comrades 
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Hi eggnog ✨
Yes actually. It's rad trust me, you are gonna dig it. You can end up losing shoulder mass and having your torso thin down, depending on what ur body is like rn. It fucks.
You're letting this torment you out of asking to be gendered correctly which I don't think is right. Who cares, people should just respect you and plenty are willing to. Women have deep voices sometimes, who cares. I did, wasn't too bad. Listen to uh, the two most recent Against Me albums I think.
It will likely come with misogyny, we live in such a dogshit society that every woman deals with misogyny. This might sound flippant but I would WAY rather deal wifh misogyny than pretend to be a man forever. If a guy talks over me I roll my eyes, dudes being creepy is way less pleasant but I'm not gonna let social weirdness dictate what I do with my goddamn body, y'know?
That's pretty much the thrust of it. Yeah, misogyny, potential harassment and so on, but you don't wanna keep pretending to be a guy. I didn't, that shit sucks. You deserve not to feel the pain of dysphoria constantly.
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Hi Ash ✨ glad you're back.
I hope you're right. I'm so big >.< I didn't know about losing shoulder mass, that does sound great.
How can I want hrt so badly and yet I still don't know all of what it doesI really am. They should... I just can't. I can't explain it.
I really, really do not want to sound like that. Maybe that's fine for some people but not me.
Yea I know they do. It really hurts to see and read about.
No, no I really don't want to keep this up. Thank you.
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Nawww thank yew
I just take silly breaks sometimes
The shoulder mass is like, testosterone promotes upper body development, so it tends to pack muscle onto the shoulders which can be slimmed off and then regained in cool places, like thighs or hips or GIRL TUMMY
Estrogen does a lot of stuff which is cool! You don't have to be a scholar of it to want it, though.
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You don't have to want to, my point is though sometimes women be sounding ways and that's fine, you are allowed to exist however while being she!her as well, you are not REQUIRED to do TransVoiceLessons level training before you can get gendered correctly, it is ok actually. Fwiw I wish I sounded like Ada Rook but I try not to worry about it and it is fine.
Sorry shit sucks right now for you
Yw though, I just think you should prioritise getting your own self to a spot where you're content or happy or at the very least less in-pain than you are now, cause you deserve that 
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I'll try to remember that, but I still don't buy it for myself. Voice dysphoria is genuinely the worst. I wish I could disconnect voice from gender, maybe that will just take time.
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Yeah or like, you could end up with a big shapely ass Idk
y'know just wholesome stuff
I will not tolerate girltummy slander though. Once you kiss a partner's girltummy, you will know, I promise. Fwiw muscle and then fat will build on your lower body first though, tummy is sort of a "reserve spot" for body mass (to kiss
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Having dysphoria over your own voice is entirely fair, sometimes I get it too Idk. Listening to a lot of transfemme musicians helped for me though, so much variance in vocal tones. Try not to fret about it though
LETS FUCKIN GO!!! YOU DESERVE IT!!!!
Girl-Based and Tummypilled.
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I don't think Ash was saying you should. But like... I hear a woman even when listening to Reinventing Axle Rose nowadays, which I didn't expect back when Dysphoria Blues released.
Yes, thank you!!!
I had a great time when I finally disconnected vocal tones from gender. It's a tough worm to dig out but it's rad.
I wish I generally could separate the two. LJG is the only artist I listened to before they came out (well officially came out - Trash Unreal always felt autobiographical, so when she finally came out, it made a lot more sense).
I'm agender so it was more I wanted my voice to sound a touch higher in tone.. and only shifted an octave.. It's weird I dunno, thinking back I maybe felt pressured because of the predominantly transfem spaces I was in that influenced that plus not very healthy spaces at that..
Not really sure what I'd want for my own voice (other than avoiding buzziness). So many cool and different voice types.
If I wasn't more self-aware of my own voice because of transfem spaces, I probably wouldn't really consider the genders of singers much and generally probably was a bit less self-aware of gender before egg-crack than most people? Like, a couple times I've been in otherwise all-girl groups without noticing until someone else pointed it out (one of those times was when we were changing and apparently that's usually gender-separated activity here 😕).
Yeah I wanted mine to sound a little nicer and to lift it a touch more, but I didn't really have voice dysphoria before. I'm more comfortable since I've had more introspection and knowledge on top.
It's also why now I'd be more letting people work themselves out if that makes sense, but give advice where needed. I think I was aware of presentation and such but didn't really apply things to myself lol but I analyse a lot and over think but I also don't get envy or such negative feelings, it's a weird mix of being ace and intersex and non binary on top of autism lol But it's taken me on a weird journey where figuring out I'm agender is fairly recent..
It's tough because it's so ingrained societally, but exposing yourself to more cool people generally was something I found helped. People sound all kinds of ways =)
I really hope that happens for me.
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