Is there still hope?
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Yeah. Unless this is seriously out of character for this person, I think they're pretty far gone. Using Jew as an insult is a extremely bad.
If it is out of character this could be an episode of some kind. Right wing propaganda heavily exploits paranoia.
Calling a quintessential Marxist position the r-word and complaining about Jews is pretty far gone.
The Barbara Pit was a derelict mineshaft that Nazis and collaborators were herded into along with some dynamite. They are being hyperbolic (in a rather unhelpful way) but communicating that this person is a lost cause.
A re-education camp might help him, but we don't have any of those. I personally say you should probably cut your losses and find a better friend, but if this prick is really important to you (and maybe he is, and with good reason, idk) then I'd suggest trying to talk to him as a human rather than as someone trying to recruit into their syndicate. Maybe say "I'm uncomfortable with you sneering about Jews like that" perhaps with reference to a Jewish person you both know who is cool. Fundamentally, trying to come at it from a standpoint of kindness is I think the best option. I saw you say they are from a wealthy enough family, but perhaps something else is going on. Are they lonely? Struggling with a disability? Usually people have some sort of turmoil that causes them to turn like this. To me, it looks like performative edginess, like the sort of thing a mentally unwell person might engage in in a sordid attempt to claim agency or just provoke a reaction.
Complete aside, Marx's professional career was pretty interesting. He knew he had no chance espousing radical politics in academia, so he mostly tried to write for newspapers, but the papers he wrote for (being radical leftist) kept getting shut down for insulting whichever King or the like, and there were at least three instances Marx had to flee the country he was currently in or flat-out got exiled. People talk about him like he was a bum, and he did have at least a phase of his life where he was a rather miserable alcoholic, but for the most part he was quite a busy guy.
he doesn't expect free lunch, he expects that bosses don't get 100 free lunches a day
explore class antagonism, not lanyard-huffin policy details
ah i see he is rich, yeah, he gone
tell us about their material conditions. are they alienated by the working class hellscape or is their dad a car dealership owner?
Rich parents and lives a comfy life. Although, he’s invested most of his wealth in bitcoin a couple months ago, so idk how that’s going for him
Been there. I had a comfortable life and bad reactionary views. I want to say this guy is salvageable but it might take him having to lose a lot and interact with people that aren't white and cishet wasps to come around.
This is what I was going to say. Sounds like a privileged shithead, they will probably need a metaphorical kick to the nuts to loosen things up in that noggin and allow them to see their own exploitation and precarity.
over the last two months BTC has dropped about... 12%
it sounds like your friend's material interests are pretty heavily weighted towards justifying his own social position
Haha omg the price of btc jas basically never been higher, who's your mate goong to blame when that doesnt work out?
sincerely i think you need to either tell this person to pull their head in, or take a fucking hike. You cant let these comments slide, its not worth keeping people like this in your life
To let things slide for the sake of peace and friendship when a person has clearly gone wrong, and refrain from principled argument because he is an old acquaintance, a fellow townsman, a schoolmate, a close friend, a loved one, an old colleague or old subordinate. Or to touch on the matter lightly instead of going into it thoroughly, so as to keep on good terms. The result is that both the organization and the individual are harmed. This is one type of liberalism.
https://www.marxists.org/reference/archive/mao/selected-works/volume-2/mswv2_03.htm
Mao said: fight your mate
Cut him off, but tell him he's gone psycho. You can't deal with his fucked up bigoted brain worms anymore.
Spoiled ass fuckin brat
Make sure he knows why you're cutting him off.
On the one hand I want to agree but on the other hand having been in the pipeline myself of reactionary thoughts against minorities like Jewish people I think people can be saved. But like I said in my other post, it's going to have to basically take his life having to be upended to probably shake him out of it. Honestly wish we had reeducation camps. I pretty much went through one learning how to think again and respect people and it made me no longer hateful (against the oppressed, hate the bourgeoisie).
seriously people like this don't deserve to have friends
but in the west it's actually harder to make friends if you aren't racist
The guy who famously worked for like three days without sleep then crashed for a whole day to recover and repeat, even though his income was rarely tied directly to his hours of labor? The guy who wrote several dense tomes that are still taught to econ students by half the world? That guy was clearly lazy as fuck and never earned his keep or produced anything of value.
How would he fill in the blanks?
From each according to their _____
To each according to their _____the more i hear/read about stuff like this the more i think Marx had ADHD or was some other type of neurodivergent
There is hope but you're not going to be the one that saves them at this point, considering they're already talking to you like that. Also you'll want to mark this NSFW and put a CW on it since we got some real bad stuff going on in this screenshot
as the friend you're the one equipped for the character jab reposte from 'drunk who expects a free lunch' unless the friend is some kind of mad quaker that never got anything for free
very little hope. Either he's unserious and just sort of repeating whatever the algorithm is feeding him, he doesn't really believe what he's saying but for whatever reason it's appealing to him at this point in his life, or he'll be swallowed whole by the abyss and start asking people what their haplogroups are. Either way, there's very little you can do except just be there when/if reality hits him in the face and he starts to climb back out.
Rip in peace your friend. Had someone I know go "ironic" Nazi (spoiler alert: no such thing) around the same time as they came out as a man. I stuck around long enough to learn to recognize their bullshit and haven't looked back.
