• Tomorrow_Farewell [any, they/them]
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        5 months ago

        Relatively correct, given that, in the frame of reference of the object moving into a black hole, time obviously runs normal for them.

        But yes, if there were two synchronised clocks, one on Earth and one on a ship, and the ship were to get into a black hole and then back to Earth, the clocks would show different times.

        • hexaflexagonbear [he/him]
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          5 months ago

          In the proper time it takes to fall in a black hole, to any external observer the time would be infinite. The falling observer would quite literally see millenia happen. Then die i guess.

          • Tomorrow_Farewell [any, they/them]
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            5 months ago

            Now, consider what an 'external observer' is. Is it something that receives information from (some region near) the black hole via, for example, travelling light which would have to reach them from there? In that case, what you get is that same situation that I described - two synchronised clocks, one comes back from the black hole. The details might look different, but that's superficial.

            There is no such thing as an 'objective' moment of time in the sense that there can be no such thing as a global clock.

            • hexaflexagonbear [he/him]
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              5 months ago

              The phenomenom I'm pointing out is that an observer falling into a black hole experiences crossing the event horizon in finite time, a distant stationary observer sees time for the falling observer slow (and in fact calculates an infinite time to cross the event horizon), while the falling observer sees time pass fast for the stationary observer (with similar asymptotic behaviour). I didn't say anything about objective time, I said proper time, which is the time past on an observer's own clock in a not necessarily inertial reference frame. It's been a decade since my last proper general relativity course but I'm pretty confident in what I'm describing

              • Tomorrow_Farewell [any, they/them]
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                5 months ago

                I mean, I do understand this stuff, but the comment that you replied to was talking about the fact that there can be no global clock, motivated by the person I was first replying to saying '...or should I say relatively correct?'.

                Also, not sure if physicists do that but 'finite time' kind of makes my ears bleed. Not that it can be rigorously defined, but 'bounded time' seems to be a much more apt expression.

    • TerminalEncounter [she/her]
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      5 months ago

      I always wonder what happened to the light and radiation of the star that made the black hole... is it just kinda hanging out there near the horizon just waiting to roast anything that gets close?

      • Frank [he/him, he/him]
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        5 months ago

        Apparently there's something called hawking radiation?

        The light and heat can't escape the black hole because space/time is so warped by the extreme gravity that even at light speed no direction leads away from the hole. Which is, like, wtf does that even mean? But that's how understand it.

        • peeonyou [he/him]
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          5 months ago

          that's only past the event horizon..but some light and particles actually appear to be emitted at the event horizon if they get slingshotted just on the edge of it

    • ElHexo
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  • dannoffs [he/him]
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    5 months ago

    On June 28th, 1998 The Undertaker threw Mankind off Hell in a Cell, sending him plummeting 22ft through the Spanish language announcer's table and onto the concrete floor.

  • tamagotchicowboy [he/him]
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    5 months ago

    Most cosmic events, also doin-your-mom which like the former is also its own inverse, millennia where milliseconds happen

  • StalinStan [none/use name]
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    5 months ago

    When trump turned to the left we exited the funniest timeliness and returned to the stupidest one.