https://fxtwitter.com/bryan_caplan/status/1820923427693187505
https://fxtwitter.com/bryan_caplan/status/1821216666392654293
The target of my criticism was doctor's innumeracy, not vaccines
This guy makes a compelling argument. He should go visit the Titanic wreckage in a cheap submarine, I hear only 5 people have died from visiting that wreck using a poor sub in the last 2 years
Beyond being a lolbertarian, this bozo makes a great case for aggressively disregarding all work they've produced in just 2 tweets lmao
I know a lolbertarian who loves to go on about “actually rusty nails don’t cause tetanus, it’s a bacteria” motherfucker where does this shit like to live? Oh, rusty nails? Fuck, I hate him
Dirt... it lives in the dirt. Rusty nails just make it easier to get the bacteria deep enough into you to increase the chances it will cause an infection.
Get your tetanus shots people, TETANUS IS ALREADY IN THE HOUSE!
I think it's spores in soil, the rusty nail just happens to be in the soil and provide the perfect delivery method
Yes, my point is it’s such a fucking redditor distinction.
ackshually, it’s not the fall that kills you, it’s the sudden stop
Come on Tetanus, you have the chance to do something really funny
dying from tetanus is horrific, your muscles gradually lock up over the course of days until you can't breathe
But only two people a year die from Tetanus and do I look like a two?
I heard most countries follow something called “The American Index,” where they go to the doctors to get checked for every condition that Americans proudly and boastfully ignore every year.
This man must be a true indoorsman to have never had to worry about whether the nail you just stepped on or whatever metal thing you cut your hand on might cause tetanus.
Shit when did I get my last booster?
"I refused the tetanus booster" is the most "I don't know how to use a power drill" bs imaginable.
Didn't thoreau's brother die from a shaving nick?
Bad enough acne can get infected
Especially when hygiene isn't a priority
Bad enough infection can kill you
Probably not as prolifically as smallpox, but it definitely happens
Bad enough acne can get infected
Ah, that's what I was missing, thanks.
Pfft, why would I bother eating a diet rich in vitamin C or taking supplements for it?
Nobody gets scurvy these days. I'm not a pirate in the 1650s or some sailor from the 1800s. Get real.
This dipshit also flew in a plane to get a vaccine, what dumbass would admit that. What a self own.
People think that tetanus is something that you get from stepping or being cut deeply by something rusty, its not.
Its just a thing that lives in dirt. Its all the rusty pointy metal things (farm implements, rusted out vehicles, places where boards full of exposed nail points are all over the place) we used to play with, on, or around that made it more likely that tetanus bacteria would get stuck in ya' often enough and deep enough to take hold. And more often than not, its was poor people who couldn't afford to lose kids or pay for advanced medical treatment being told to be afraid of tetanus from playing around rusty metal.
the rusty pointy metal things (farm implements, rusted out vehicles, places where boards full of exposed nail points are all over the place) we used to play with, on, or around
I don't know if this is me being unbelievably young or privileged but I literally have never had to even consider worrying about something like this? Where the hell are people that this is something that's frequently relevant to their lives?
Were kids in the 80s just like, "oh boy I got a bag of rusty nails for my birthday, can't wait to bring this on my field trip to the no-shoes-allowed junk yard and then take a nap inside the nearest farmer's antique threshing machine?"
Where are you guys finding all this rust to play with and lead paint chips to eat?
As kids we used to break into construction sites to steal planks and nails for our tree houses.
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Unlimited death to america. Truly no infrastructure is left un-neglected.
Were kids in the 80s just like, "oh boy I got a bag of rusty nails for my birthday, can't wait to bring this on my field trip to the no-shoes-allowed junk yard and then take a nap inside the nearest farmer's antique thereshing machine?"
Tagline material.
the u.s. is full to bursting of rotted out houses, farms, equipment, etc
go to any small town and there's a good shot you'll see more shacks than houses
rural america, shit probably urban in some areas. I lived in the sticks for a period and there were a lot of old abandoned farm implements in the woods that were absolutely rusted out
I grew up in rural Ireland and nearly everything was rusty. Half of the cities were rusty tbh, anywhere outside of the city centres is not that well-maintained.
But I grew up in the 2000s and when I wasn't allowed to play video games I would just start exploring farm equipment and playing with hammers. I guess it just depends on your environment
Yes though it did/do be like that in many parts of America. I remember my father telling me about his friend who died playing in silos in Nebraska as kids. Not rust but ya kids be playing on old and new farming equipment alike.
I was playing football in a field with an old barbed wire fence and the quarterback was a little inaccurate while I was a little overzealous. I waited in the ER for several hours like a good American, mostly because I was at work and they made me.
Playing in subdivisions where the outer areas weren't fully built, playing in alleyways between houses that would become dumping grounds for random things after a decade of occupation, kids building "club houses" with whatever scraps of lumber and nails we could steal from other houses back yards or early stages of construction, having friends who lived in rural areas where we'd play/wander in barns and abandoned houses. We'd break bottles and have rock rights for funsies, too.
But for the most part, the tetanus from rusty metal things is like from the early 1900's that just got passed down, out of context, as a matter of fact.
I grew up in a fairly sterile environment because I had/have a dogshit immune system so my only context for any of this is that one episode of Arthur where he fucking fillets his knee open on a rusty can.
I was never specifically told to be afraid of tetanus either, but that may be because all kids got mandatory tetanus vaccines where I grew up. I still have a faded scar on my arm - I think it was the three vaccines in one shot thing, nowadays it doesn't leave a scar afaik, but back then you got a star-shaped mark and a minor swelling for a few weeks. And when pushing around other kids, somebody would always go "not in the vaccine!" when they caught a stray, painful punch in that part of the arm.
I only renewed it in my mid-20s after stepping straight onto a long rusty nail. I also decided to get some other vaccines filled in back then, like TBE.
edit: I actually looked it up and the scar was from a tubercolosis vaccine, tetanus et al didn't leave any marks
I grew up in the sticks and being around tools and shit was very normal. Often rusty just from age and use. Lots of remains of old sheds or torn down houses etc out in the woods too, or active projects on your own land, barbed wire, etc. To me it doesn’t seem unusual at all to see or be around that sort of stuff and we were always up to date on our tetanus shot because of it. Even just getting poked by a tree branch or something is a tetanus risk, any puncture wound should be treated as one
And you can also get it from say a knife from somewhere with no rust or dirt immediately visible. I cut my finger pretty deep while processing meat in a commercial kitchen, the first thing I was sent to do was to get a tetanus booster since it was over 10 years from my previous one. Also was smart to have it as a gym instructor, you don't want to not have it in that environment, gym equipment is nasty.
a non-contagious disease, about 2/3rds of americans are vaccinated, which they need like once every 10 years, and it still kills 2 million per year
yeah, it's the entire medical community that's innumerate and not the dipshit libertarian academic
Not 2 million. 2.
But mostly it only kills 2 a year because when people get a cut or injury that might cause tetanus, they are given a booster which helps prevent them from getting it. So this guy is still a dumbass. It's a completely survivable illness because it's so easy to prevent, not because it's not dangerous.
It kills 2 Americans per year. About 50,000 people worldwide die every year from tetanus, all of whom did not receive a booster.
This dumbfuck really wants to be #3.
Oh yes sorry. The OP was talking about how many Americans it killed so I left that out. Can definitely see how that's not clear. I think if anything the fact that its so deadly abroad is even further proof that the booster absolutely works.
yeah, even if it's 2...
i got an infection after stepping on something years ago and the doc asked if i'd like a tetanus booster since i hadn't gotten one in over a decade, and i was like, shouldn't you be encouraging me to get one? yes, give me the booster shot!
So I asked for it the last time I had a doctor’s appointment since I had actually recently cut myself (nothing major) doing repairs on my ancient house. He had to document my injury for the “health system” to even allow it. I then got a letter from my insurance a month later to see where I hurt myself, was it someone else’s property, was I suing someone over it etc etc etc. All over a tetanus shot. I think that’s why they don’t try to be loose with them. Best healthcare system in the world.
I also misread it and had to look it up because I was surprised tetanus killed so many people every year.
mandela effect or did @Posadas@hexbear.net edit the screenshot after tricking us into reading the original that said 2 million?
They wouldn't let an actual idiot be professor of art history or mathematics. Yet more proof that bougie economy is not a science.
I mean, I'm kinda with him on this. Its not like he's gonna give me tetanus by not getting vaccinated. If he wants to roll the dice, let him.
That's true but there is also no downside of getting it when one can afford it.
Just yesterday I was listening to some guy talk about how he had a friend die from getting tetanus from a rusty razor (I know it's not the rust but I assume the humid environment of a bathroom would allow for the tetanus bacteria to grow on the razor)
I've seen this so many times but I never stop being amazed at how the average economist thinks he knows more about most other fields than actual experts.
It's like, at least with a regular STEM lord they can relate the thing they don't understand to something real that they do - but an economist literally just learns a bunch of vibes and bullshit while in college.
unlimited tetanus on Bryan Caplan
