Mine is when a lib says that a socialist leader is filthy rich because le ebil dictator owns literally everything in the country.

  • GalaxyBrain [they/them]
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    3 hours ago

    But the business owner takes THE RISK. FUCKING WHAT RISK? The risk of having to liquidate your assets and have to work a normal job like your employees do for you? You don't get to take that kind of risk unless you already have a fuckload of money or enough that a bank thinks it can get a steady return on investment, no one is taking any risk here.

    • Krem [he/him]
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      35 minutes ago

      these people would 100% have said something racist if the conversation climate was different. using "culture" as a blanket term, and dividing the world into big cultural groups, is almost always a dogwhistle

  • BodyBySisyphus [he/him]
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    3 hours ago

    "Look, I'm as left as they come, but..." proceeds to deliver a take that Reagan would've thought was a little much

  • OBJECTION!@lemmy.ml
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    4 hours ago

    I’m a staunch pacifist and also 100% behind helping Ukraine.

    Co-opting of pacifism is peak liberalism, it's such a blatant example of liberals trying to paint themselves as "peace-loving" while being imperialists and accepting none of the flak that actual pacifists receive, and even readily engaging in that flak. "Oh, but I only support defensive wars," motherfucker, it's called the "department of defense" because every fucking side in every fucking war post-Ghengis Khan always frames themselves as "defending." If you accept that you can still be a pacifist while saying war is acceptable if you believe it furthers the aim of peace, then you could be a full blown neocon and still call yourself a pacifist.

    Actual pacifists may be cranks, but I have some respect for them for having actual principles that they will stand by even if it means incurring a personal cost. Liberals want to steal valor(?) for their own self-aggrandizement while believing in nothing and sacrificing nothing. And that's not even getting into, "I'm a pacifist, so I just got out of the situation and called the cops."

  • Shaleesh [she/her, comrade/them]
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    3 hours ago

    "You're one of them gays aintcha? [insert resistance movement/socialist state/ect here] would kill you for that dontcha know?"

    It feels like the people who say things like that are deeply queerphobic and they would be would be utterly delighted to see LGBT+ people dealt with of in such a way. I don't think they would bring it up otherwise.

  • FortifiedAttack [he/him]
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    4 hours ago

    Mine is a statement that takes many forms but usually boils down to the exact same mindset -- namely that the current "villain of the week" is always assumed to be the most primitive simpleton imaginable.

    It's not even limited to leaders of foreign countries. Somehow, liberals are incapable of attributing any strategic ability to their enemies.

    For example, they will see a corporation get into a legal fight, where it is quite clear that the corporation is morally in the wrong, and they will immediately claim the corporation is going to lose because of some supposed foolishness by the corporation.

    If you ask them about their reasoning, it usually becomes clear that they are actually completely clueless about the topic. Confusing patent, copyright and trademark law is a classic in this area.

    But they just can't imagine that these corporations, who regularly exploit the system to their advantage, and have highly paid teams of lawyers doing this for them, might know what they are doing, and might very well succeed.

    Maybe it's because even the acknowledgement of this possibility is already interpreted as support for the villain. You can't claim that the Russians aren't losing, because if you do, you must obviously support Russia.

    Liberals would rather delude themselves with boundless hubris than correctly assess the situation.

  • PorkrollPosadist [he/him, they/them]M
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    5 hours ago

    "The fact that you can criticize the government proves that we live in a democracy!" (especially funny when it happens on self-hosted fedi platforms deliberately operated in third-party jurisdictions due to censorship on Silicon Valley platforms).

    • GalaxyBrain [they/them]
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      3 hours ago

      If it were a democracy wouldn't those criticisms be able to amount to more than nothing in terms of policy?

    • SacredExcrement [any, comrade/them]
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      4 hours ago

      It's especially funny because they can turn around and make the "CIA excellence in journalism award" joke to refer to journalists said government killed, all without a trace of awareness

    • rubpoll [she/her]
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      5 hours ago

      I like pointing out that calling Mitch McConnell a turtle ten billion times hasn't removed him from power.

  • someone [comrade/them, they/them]
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    5 hours ago

    That openly-fascist people can be reasoned with to abandon fascism.

    I feel like words are the only non-monetary thing that liberals truly value. They don't value action, they value discussion. And sure, in most situations, starting with diplomacy is the sane thing to do. But sometimes words aren't gonna work. Dealing with Hitler would have ended up with gunfire no matter the specifics. He wasn't gonna be talked out.

    • FortifiedAttack [he/him]
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      4 hours ago

      They don't seem to have any problem not using diplomacy with Russia though, even though the Russian government is now the exact kind of liberalism they were hoping to install in Russia.

      It's almost like the hatred there is racially motivated, and not ideologically.

    • keepcarrot [she/her]
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      5 hours ago

      The liberal in my head gets very depressed when I'm trapped in a conversation where this is the case.

    • Wertheimer [any]
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      5 hours ago

      Power concedes nothing without a five-paragraph essay

  • MF_COOM [he/him]
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    6 hours ago

    a socialist leader is filthy rich because le ebil dictator owns literally everything in the country.

    I like to hit em with this graph when they try to suggest socialist governments are new boss same as the old boss.

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    • FortifiedAttack [he/him]
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      4 hours ago

      Liberals will trot out decades old propaganda as gospel, not realizing that their unwavering, unshakeable belief in this dogma is precisely the reason why they are incapable of changing the system in which they live, and in which they, their friends and their families suffer.

      They are fundamentally incapable of identifying the sources of their problems because of this. If you base your logical calculus on contradictory axioms, nothing will make sense as a result.

  • InevitableSwing [none/use name]
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    6 hours ago

    My current favorite is their weird presidential calculus where anything you do other than voting for Kamala is a vote for Trump. In their math even 0 equals 1 because not voting is somehow also a vote for Trump

    • CommunistCuddlefish [she/her]
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      4 hours ago

      They hate to hear from militant trans poc who say "don't use us to justify your support of genocide!"