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They don't care. They were afraid of defunding to begin with, so this just gives them an out.
Most liberals aren't anti-police on a principled or ideological basis, they usually can't get past the "just a few bad apples" talking point and seek to reform the institution as if it weren't rotten from the roots up.
There's nothing more to this other than that by being seen to agree it diffuses confrontation. It's why you have so much "I agree with you, but" bullshit where there's clearly no consensus. They aren't actually acknowledging anything, they're just trying to eliminate your arguments and make you seem/feel unreasonable when you come back to the core point.
They aren't entirely wrong. Defunding the police would just lead to a bunch of unemployed, trained, violent psychos roaming around all day. Cutting every departments budget by 30 or 40% or whatever would just turn them into a true paramilitary force with absolutely no accountability or oversight.
The real issue with policing in this country is the culture that teaches police to act like an occupying force in the community and gives them military surplus gear. The fact that so many cops were in Iraq is going to make things even more volatile going forward.
There needs to be a permanent ban on military veterans joining police forces. If you've ever been to boot camp, you can never be in law enforcement. Ban PDs from buying milsurp gear as well.
Considering that many police are called in to do the jobs that social workers, firefighters, EMTs, etc. should be doing, in the case of defunding any sufficiently well-behaved cop should perhaps be offered the option to be hired and retrained to do these other jobs which are socially necessary and which reinforce public safety. The more unhinged ones and military veterans who haven't yet done something worth throwing them in prison for should still be fired, but they might need some sort of serious rehabilitation or re-education.
More or less, yes. At the same time, you have to do something with the cops that are already making a living being cops but have no redeemable motivation. You can't just fire them and re-educate them, you have to give them some bullshit busy-box so they don't go Richard Dorner on everone. Maybe we make them the Mall Cops 3 days a week and the real Mall Cops take the other 4 days.
Libs don’t want to defund the police, they want to reform the police and if people keep damaging property, they might change their mind.
What are these people saying now after they’ve marched for months saying to defund them?
Yeah, I don’t think most people marching and smashing Starbucks windows are liberals. Especially the leaders. And if they were coming into it I’m sure they’re now in the process of turning red if not fully red already.
What phrase? defund the police? Do you know what one of the most popular chants is right now? “No Cops. No Prisons. Total Abolition.”
If haven’t tuned in for the past month and a half, why say anything?
The protesters fighting the cops everyday are comrades. BLPOC who are fighting so they don’t get shot to death every interaction they have with police.
You’re framing protesters as liberals and then saying they’re supporting Biden. That’s not happening. Made up fantasy.
Dope! So any time there’s liberals involved in a leftist movement let’s make sure to talk down to the movement because some liberals are involved.
Liberals haven’t been marching in the streets for months. Those are the leftists. They may have marched a bit, but they weren’t out there every day. You would know this if you were out there every day and not tuned out for the past month and a half.
Go to a protest and say “Vote Biden or vote blue down ticket.” And tell me how that works out for you.
That’s likes saying well some chuds also go to the protests.
I’ve seen some videos of them throwing people to the cops.
Those aren’t protesters. Those are narcs. I’m sure you’ve seen way more videos of actually protesters fighting cops to dearrest their fellow comrades.
No matter what he does, they support him on the basis of being not trump. I.E. Thinkinh he automatically comes with some policies just from the D next to his name.
He's not Trump. That's it.
That is all they need to hear to feel smug when they tell me that by not voting for Biden, I'm voting for Trump.
The smugness of libs is the sole reason all those stupid "Ben Shapiro DESTROYS stupid libs with FACTS and LOGIC" videos would get millions of views.
Back in the 2000s, smug liberalism was all the rage and they wore their smugness like a badge of honor. One thing overlooked in talking about the West Wing, is that it was the show that really pushed the smugness of libs to the forefront and normalized it. Ever since Trump, they try to deny and downplay their smugness, but it's no different from the 2000s when they talked down to people.
Yet they sit there and wonder why people are wanting to yell 'fuck you' back at them.
I don't think I've watched more than five minutes of The West Wing. Was it really that bad? The older I get, the more I realize I may have dodged a bullet.
It's simple. He's lying but he's a Democrat and the preferred winner so nobody's gonna give a shit except for us.
"Not Trump" followed by shrieking if you ask any follow-up questions.
My stepfather asserts that its because that funding is meant for mental health professionals and the like to work with the police on the job. As a lawyer he claims that police he's talked to want that sort of thing, but cops be cops so take their word-of-mouth as you will.
It's either vote for 2007 or vote for 1933.
I know picking the least bad option is for cuck liberal removeds who suck dick but 🤷🏻♂️. I could see some Jarkata Method shit happen under Trump,
