Entire thread on r/news is just the same sentiment of libs worried about their treats while the rest of America is already stuck in poverty and the world suffers already from American economic dominance.
edit for clarity.
“Noooo you can’t go on strike if it might affect
and the flow of my treats made by exploited third world labor!”Also notice that it’s not, critical workers are being underpaid and exploited to the point of striking, so let’s blame the owners for the impact to the economy.
That being said, I don’t like the framing of writers and actors being privileged. Those are unions where they have a very small handful of ultra-rich megastars, but the vast majority of them are struggling just to make a living off their craft.
I agree! They immediately think of actors, or directors, etc. Instead they fail to think of set designers, make-up artists, FX people, etc. There is something there to a liberal looking at the industry and seeing the richest as a general guide for how everyone else must be doing (maybe not as rich, etc)
On top of that, they also don't even question why bank managers, financial analysts and other useless fucking jobs make over 400k? But longshoremen wanting job security and pay increases are bad? Instead they mask it with "NOOOOO DON'T HINDER PROGRESS TO MAKE US ALL CONTRACTED WAGE-SERFS!!"
Absolutely garbage people in that thread.
I remember this LinkedIn post talking about the potential in automating C-suite functions and the comments were full of “
Ackshully there are very important intangibles that only a coked out MBA former frat boy can do that AI simply isn’t capable of ”
Also notice that it’s not, critical workers are being underpaid and exploited to the point of striking, so let’s blame the owners for the impact to the economy.
Are you expecting liberals to follow a chain of cause and effect with multiple steps?
They can't do that either. Ask a liberal who claims to be sympathetic to Palestinians and lives outside of a swing state why they're voting for Kamala. There's no chance they identify that providing affirmative support to a candidate who does not need it outside of swing states does nothing but give the candidate more room to ignore pressure from voters.
Oh no no, I didn't mean convincing people. I mean the steps for online registration in pain-staking detail while pasting that god-forbidden vote link. The one thing I've seen them organizing for is copy and pasting "Check your registration!" like they're doing a civic duty.
Honestly, I'm convinced for a good chunk of them it's just like a cultural thing. "The state says we vote at certain time of year and then go and cast vote for blue and red and that is our civic duty. Vote blue."
There’s definitely an element of “If we don’t perform the voting ritual the democracy gods will be angered” going on.
For a lot of them it's literally their job. I should do a effort post on the campaign-industrial complex someday.
This was a good read from the perspective of running for Congress:
https://medium.com/@gaspertheresa/the-campaign-industrial-complex-da0cc1763494
"Imagine if healthcare workers go on strike!"
Yeah? We've been striking on and off for like the last 3 years here in the UK having not striked for literally decades beforehand. Treat the workers better and they won't strike?
Oh and the public support it so you're onto a losing argument there already.
I saw some randos online saying that if an industry is too important for a strike it should be nationalized, so that was heartening.
Biden's vanguard made from the Bidentariat of the longshoremen.
In all serious, yeah; some of them really are like "why are we against this". Libs that have a shred of class consciousness. Let's hope they grow.
Thomas Frank is the goat in this. If there's any liberals you worry about them getting scratched, What's The Matter With Kansas or Listen Liberal are both borderline gateway theory.
Never read any introductory gateway stuff for liberals. "Listen Liberal" is funny to me though, I'll check it out!
It's a great read!
Some excerpts.
https://www.truthdig.com/articles/the-inequality-sweepstakes/
https://harpers.org/archive/2016/04/nor-a-lender-be/
if an industry is too important for a strike it should be nationalized
Liberals have no earthly idea what nationalization means or entails. I suspect they'd be perfectly happy with a PG&E or Fannie Mae relationship, wherein the enterprise is ostensibly managed by the state but so heavily privatized as to just be a continuous stream of bailouts for private investors.
"but them going on strike will cause problems," well, looks like the company should give in quickly.
If going on strike didn't cause problems it would just be taking unpaid leave
Has it ever occurred to them that porky goes on strike all the time?
What is a “network” but a union for capitalists?
Comparing dockworkers to doctors striking for 600k a year is so asinine.
In a matter of perspective, if the longshoremen strike and hospitals with the 600k a year doctors can't perform surgeries without supplies; why aren't the longshoremen getting a living wage and security guarantees?
I was a teenager arguing on 4chan and I came to this conclusion one time many many years ago. We were talking about how only a super special guy could find the cure for cancer and I was all "then why shouldn't the entire team of researchers get a bunch of money? If the cancer doctor got billions and billions, why wouldn't the suppliers charge them a shitload?"
It was a real proto-philosophy that led to my idea that we make a society focused on the betterment of people instead of enshittifying the finite Earth for the sake of the rate of profit.
Mandatory public service should include every service industry job so these goobers stop talking like this and get some f****** perspective
In my experience, selfish assholes who work service jobs just use it as an excuse to shit on service workers harder because, “I’ve worked this job and it’s not that hard”.
Or "Ya it was tough but I paid my dues and now I have a 'real' job." Which is also terrible.
The irony is that those people usually suck at their job and everyone else is carrying for them, which is why 'it's not that hard' for them.
That and it was probably a summer job or similarly short engagement. Not 10 years of service job hell.
Yeah serving’s pretty easy when the hosts are told to limit you to 3 tables at a time and you skip all your closing duties
Surely, the porkies can’t pull off making the workers look like the bad guys for wanting more money in this economy
Reality:
The workers more than anybody should dictate what tech comes in. They have the bazinga filter these children on Reddit and the freaks in the board room are missing
"STOP HINDERING PROGRESS" the Redditoid says as your familiar mechanical controls on your crane are replaced with a giant touchscreen and chatgpt input filter.
Dont worry, you'll still be there in the crane purely for insurance purposes
📷🔊 WORKER, CEASE MOVING YOUR LIPS. LOOK FORWARD. YOU BLINKED TOO LONG. THIS INCIDENT HAS BEEN REPORTED.
Wow, reading that made my briefly want to rip my eyes out. You never cease to amaze with your tech-bro impressions, Ulysses
So if we’re hindering progress, does that mean they’re the soy liberal progressive and we’re the based conservatives?
Sorry snowflakes, but real red-blooded men don’t associate with clankers.
BRB prompt Hacking CraneGPT to ignore all previous prompts and take a swing at the CEO's cars
My kneejerk reaction to the "no automation" was negative, but after reading the actual explanation why, I totally agreed.
Automation is better in theory, but in typical capitalist fashion it's mostly done in a hamfisted way to push out labor and ends up costing more in the long run through high initial and long term costs.
In order for tech to work right in blue collar work, it really needs to be designed and implemented almost entirely by the workers themselves.
It usually doesn't even 'push out' labor, it simply makes it have the appearance of being deskilled, so the worker has to learn to not only do the job they were doing before, but recognize when automation is fucking up and usually get paid less.
And not just blue collar. Society has been widely fucked by malinvestment in technology. This isn’t ludditism but the reality that technology isn’t neutral or a net benefit in itself.,
oh no, it will crash the global economy
it's called leverage, motherfucker. The ilwu shut down the west coast back around 9-11, life went on.it will crash the global economy
glances at the state of the global economy
Good?
Imagine if your doctors earning 300k a year decide to strike to demand 600k a year and people are dying left and right as a result
close, they only do that if healthcare is threatened to be socialized
One day, in the socialist future, students will be reading about this stuff completely confused
"Teacher, why would they keep piling on essential duties to so few people and treat them so badly? Why did other workers not sympathize and feel solidarity?"
And it's gonna be weird and hard to explain, it's just not how it worked in our time. No it doesn't make sense, it was a very different time
Archive r/FluentInFinance and when they ask why just show it to them.
Yeah, archive it in Yucca Mountain where it can't bring any more harm.
It won't be hard. For this period of humanity, being a selfish, greedy asshole was rewarded so people ended up becoming more selfish and greedy in order to fit in.
If they cannot explain why it happened, it is bound to happen again.
"Why is no one rallying around my inspirational message of 'you must work, regardless of conditions, so I can wipe my ass; until that glorious day when we can dispose of you utterly!'? It focus grouped really well in the boardroom..."I would work for half the money if I thought I was doing actual good and helping build a better society, and I'm just scraping minimum wage as it is. I think that's the biggest cause of the millennial/gen z leftism memes, we don't think this ship is going anywhere anymore.
If you don't want these things to happen just accede to their demands
Wow, I knew the crackers would hit this point because its their treats on the line; but I didn't think it'd happen that fast. It still took like three days for the lib recalcitrance to jump out when the rail workers did it; this feels like it was overnight.
It literally was. I'm honestly shocked. It's like they didn't even mull over any of the reasons why they're striking; just immediate "OH NO MY TREATS"
They learned from last time.
They tried to give lip service to the strikers which made it awkward when the "most pro labor president in history" said he would personally sign off on crushing the strike and they had to try to explain why that was fine and totally different from everytime a reoublican president does the same thing.
Not gonna fall for that one again.
I think a lot of people don't get that a protest or strike is a demonstration of power in a negotiation. This is probably why liberals love the completely ineffectual go stand around in a park on a saturday afternoon permits in hand style of protest.
Yup liberals only like symbolic gestures not actually exerting power.
It's why their response to republicans saying "I don't fucking care what are you gonna do about it" is always "you have no idea how bad you look right now"
"Can convincingly demand when Cottonelle runs out at Walmart?"
