https://xcancel.com/harrisonjaime/status/1844724867892985957
Hilariously bad strategy. Most americans dont even know there are third party options. Congrats on giving her free publicity?
they've been sending SuperPAC funded lawyers to try to purge 3rd parties from ballots in key states (as if that won't just generate more spite votes against them lmao "democratic party" my :donkey: ). They are genuinely afraid of their own losing the working class margins they rely on as they fight over the ever-shrinking bourgeois and petty-bourgeois with the republicans, because with their entrenched interest and donor base (which is in camaign-finance competition with republicans and their bourgeois and petty bourgeois backers) they cant actually move left without breaking in half. Which is what we should all try to force on them by starving them of the margins that they need from us if they ever want political power again; our leverage against the electoral duopoly to expose and rupture the intractable contradictions of democrat party moribundity and big-money entrenchment in conflict with their actual base (including the 35-50% who dont even vote anymore).
This is what I've been saying to those people here who say "she's probably going to win because trump x y z" --- the democrat campaign themselves aren't as sure as these people saying that are about that, and they show it in their actions. We should prove to them they are right to be afraid and force them into the consequences of their untenable existence and redundancy in the face of the working masses who still believe in bourgeois liberal democracy. This is the way to make them prove to the masses what we all already know about them and be broken for it --- force them if they ever want political power again to openly align with republicans instead of doing 95% of the same policies as the republicans and capitulating to them the other 5% of the time so that next election they can say "vote for us because we're not those guys! only we can save you from those guys we regularly call our good friends!;" or otherwise force the ruling class to float a progressive "labor" reformist party to capture workers and lumpenized voters from falling into the continually rising 3rd parties especially socialist parties like the PSL.
If the ruling class doesn't float this party and just joins in coalition with republicans, it's possible dual power situation as the broad masses of workers don't have any illusions about the open-fanged republicans and would radicalize quickly and swell the ranks of the PSL and other left wing and socialist parties and organizations. If they do float that party, This would cause the democrat party to split in half, with half of the establishment joining republicans and half joining reformist progressive party, which would alienate that floated party's left wing by "democrat-izing" the party with the same politicians they joined to get away from, and move that left-wing contingent into more radical politics with us as our agitation will have been predicting this exact outcome.
Jill Stein won literally 1.07% of the vote in 2016 lmao
These people would blame a voting booth having a vaguely unpleasant aroma near it for losing before they'd blame candidate Kadolf
Jill Stein won literally 1.07% of the vote in 2016
That's still more than antitrump reps numbers lol.
Assuming the never Trump movement is half of that percentage - when Trump was president Jill Stein herself should have been on MSNBC a few hundred hours.
Third party voters will steal the election for trump by voting their values.
Why don't you stop supporting genocide and maybe even walk back statements about how much you love fracking and hate Medicare for all?
Nooooo that would be pandering to the fringes and totally lose us like 98bajillion centrist undecided Republicans!!!??
Sounds like you don't need the leftist votes then if you're so sure your platform resonates with such a large mass of people.
Nooooooo. Third party voters will steal the election for trump by voting their values.
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Forever until November and then start it again
Not saying that bourgeois democracies are working so much better in the rest of the world, but if a candidate is so concerned about losing votes to a third candidate who couldn't win on their own, they just act like they give a shit about what the smaller candidate wants and gets endorsed/forms a coalition with the smaller one.
But no, let's keep appealing to the people who think you're not being cruel enough and who hate you for not being trump, I'm sure that's a better strategy.
Exactly. You can't have it both ways. If it's so clear that even forming a coalition with a third party and maybe conceding a few points to them would loose you this invaluable mass of voters than what the hell do you want those fringe Leftys for anyway?
Like they're more or less trying to form a coalition with centrists because they, presumably, think it's a great voting block. And yet it's leftists who aren't doing good politics.
Make your bed and fucking lie in it.
Imagine being this scared of Jill Stein lmao
They would be losing their shit if she had the influence of Robert La Follette
Remember, every vote for Kamala is a vote for Trump.
This message was approved by the Committee to Elect De La Cruz
stein lives rent-free in his head
still voting PSL unless there's a remote chance someone can show me of the greens getting >5% of the vote
Democrats: "Democracy is on the line!"
Also Democrats: "If you vote for anybody but Kamala - it means you want to strangle our democracy in its crib!"
TL;DR: Democrats accidentally arrive at the correct conclusion that the US is not a democracy but for the wrong reasons
The uber-lib take on voting and democracy boils my brain. They have a fetish in lecturing people that it's like a sacred duty of all adult individuals vote. But if you take them up on their own advice on individual responcibility but you don't vote for who they want - they have a pure hatred for you.
It's almost as if liberals are insincere in everything they say they believe in.
If Third Party voters swing voters, then maybe they should court them. Stopping the Death Machine would get pretty much all of them on board.
I imagine democrat logic sees "DAE Stein=Trump" as courting third party voters.
I go back and forth between thinking the Dems are going to pull it off or thinking they are teeing up for another unforced error. 2016 showed the chasm between the impression lib media emits and the actual reality of how the votes go.
shit like this makes me think they are blowing it. and that when it fails, they will lay the blame on their broke, disempowered and ignored constituents for not manifesting their Xanax and wine fueled dreams.
BRB gotta go give the Genocidal Entity another 9 billion more dollars (still expressing “concern” though)
The only people who know about her are those who closely follow politics. And those people have already decided, only serious policy shifts from the candidates themselves can change their minds.
Democrats complaining that a tiny percentage of votes causes untold harm to "democracy" while the rest of us have to live with the fact that places like Wyoming and Alaska have 2 senators and because of the electoral college the residents of Buttermouth County, Carolina, decide the election for 330 million people.
Fuck them
