I don't watch cable news and I don't pay attention to Jeff Teidrich or whoever so I don't know where this bullshit is coming from. At least one person responding is nominally anti-genocide, so I don't think that's the reason. Another came back with something about the funding bill for FEMA as if it's a gotcha.
What's their logic?
Thought-terminating cliché. If you just proclaim it to be a "right wing talking point" you can dismiss it out of hand without having to engage with the statement. They don't want to have to defend their policy of funding genocide while their own people suffer at it's own merits.
Trump and Co. were talking about how the money for hurricane relief was going to transgender migrant surgeries but not about israel i think. There was a separate thing going around about how FEMA is short $9B, and we just approved that amount for israel. Though they didnt literally take it from FEMA, they should be giving additional funding to FEMA and are choosing to not do a damn thing except genocide
Right-wingers do commonly say "there should be no foreign aid given until we fix our problems". The problem is, there's a difference between giving aid to another country that just had a really bad natural disaster, vs giving money and military aid to help another country commit a genocide.
Also worth noting that foreign aid isn't done out of the kindness of their hearts, it's usually used as a tool of US imperialism. Trump and his base are just too stupid to realize that.
Anything other than enthusiastic and uncritical support for Harris is seen as helping republicans.
I do rather enjoy seeing the USA criticize North Korea with the claim that they are ruled by an unelected leader and then defer to Dear Leader Kamala who was of course elected to represent her party by...?
There's a simple explanation, it's because the hurricane hit red states. It might even be an organic thing, libs have no compassion.
A total absence of class consciousness has led to libs having insane regional resentments, all premised on the idea that the poorest southerners are the ones that really hold power in the US and need to die.
It's not even regional resentments, TBH. Though that (and regional chauvinism/"enlightenment," and also while they won't admit it racism) also plays a part.
Libs are racist, classist, shitty people. That's the inherent core of their belief and how it plays out in practice, the only difference between them and open conservatives is that they fetishize a specific kind of poverty (while the conservatives fetishize/celebrate another, the "good ol' boy, poor rural redneck etc" poverty). All the "liberal strongholds" in the west are not paradises for the poor and disenfranchised, rather the opposite and simply looking at the conditions of any of them will show just how blatantly that is the case.
Libs wash their hands of their guilt through their fetishization/etc, but the reality is that their status and livelihoods are entirely predicated upon racism, classism, and all the other same things conservatives' are. They put on airs about how diverse they are (tokenism by-and-large) while gentrifying neighborhoods, harboring immense and blatant resentments against those minorities who compete with them and thus challenge their historical (and remaining) privileged race-caste, they actively engage in all of the same brutal policing, prison slavery, exploitation and theft of indigenous lands and of non-white peoples' lands abroad, etc... while voting blue and at most, donating pittances as their indulgence for the crimes they participate in.
I've lived rural and urban and in various provinces (not USA, Klanada) and this is what I've seen, I'm not sure if I can even say what is worse sometimes. Libs are just as racist and hateful (and classist) as their counterparts can be, and wherever you go the hatred and racism tends to be towards whatever minorities are most populous (natives, blacks, or Latinos depending where you are in rural Anglo North America, Asians, blacks, Latinos, etc. in urban Anglo NA, etc).
They haven't been "led" to resentment, they created these resentments to justify their own "superiority" and exploitation, it's the same story each and every time. Their class interests (or pretensions/ambitions towards such class interests) all but require that they make up the chauvinism after (this same mechanism also goes for conservatives- two sides of the same coin really)
Good summary. I grew up in a rural part of the US, and have lived in a few metropolitan regions of the Midwest. My take is a gross oversimplification- but the racism in rural areas seems mean-spirited, but directed by those without any sort of real power and often driven by ignorance. In metropolitan and more bourgeois circles, there’s often 99% awareness and buy-in of the fact that the “first world” is built with the blood of the “third world”, and a tacit approval through lack of action. My fairly poor parents in rural America, once expressed ignorant, reactionary opinions regarding unhoused and Indigenous peoples- I “strongly urged” a course correction in thought. Since then, they’ve attended a few Indigenous speakers at our local library and a powwow hosted by a local tribe. They’ve also volunteered with the temporary housing, and (low bar alert) didn’t express the ignorant opinions others did wrt my travels to San Francisco and Portland for work.
My wife’s folks are from the same region, but have a bit more wealth. They’re very conservative, and much more entrenched in that thought. They literally don’t take in new opposing view points, despite being more formally educated. Without giving too much information- the step dad is an environmental engineer who doesn’t “believe in” climate change, and the mom is a teacher who actively supports anti-teacher state policy. (Fortunately their only “action” is voting).
Compare that with the few state department people I’ve interacted with, where there’s no ignorance in their racism- just conscious, bourgeois liberal white supremacy. And a dedication to maintaining it, and the power to do so.
Like you said- the further removed one sees themselves from those being oppressed- the more smug they are over the blind fortune that they’re not on the receiving end of it.
It's nice to hear how your parents have grown and learned as people- gives some hope for the Anglosphere, admittedly (not much but it's something).
Not white, and my experiences rural were when I was growing up as well, and while there was a lot that was alienating or even some that was really fucked up (in hindsight), there was also an incredible amount of humanity to be seen and given, the likes of which are increasingly lacking as you go up the class ladder.
This is lacking logic. Even if everyone in FL dies except 3 people, and 2 of them vote for Republicans, FL gets 2 Senators.
We need a new Constitution, but that's unthinkable among the Brunch bunch.
need a dotp not a new constitution but neither one is happening so what's the difference I suppose
Any Critical statement about decisions Biden may be involved in are a vote for Trump!
The window for being critical of Biden’s administration was after the 100 days and before the critical 1,290 days prior to the election!
You can only cheer in joy for the blue team, anything less is doing a fascism.
If Republicans say something, that means that it's wrong and anyone who says it got it from them and is essentially spreading conspiracy theories.
The question most of us are faced with: do you want change? Not a little bit, unraveling heaving world-historic change?
And libs said, no, they just want things to be a little bit better (preferably for them). You are getting in the way of the mindscape that let's them think that the system can produce limited small "good" change. They don't want to think about the genocide in Gaza, or the invasion of Lebanon, or countenance that their support for blue MAGA could mean an attempted invasion of Iran - or at least an unlimited bombing campaign. They don't want to think about the people outside the wire, especially if those people are there political "enemies" they've identified as citizens in the south. What they want are Pell grants to people creating small businesses in undeserved communities for 5 years or student loan forgiveness after 15 years of service as an underpaid teacher. They don't want to think about the faceless masses living coterminous lives of suffering on the exact city streets they invisibly occupy.
When you had to confront that question - you said "yes I want change, I want the wars of imperialism to end, I don't want people to be genocided and I'm ready to take apart the means of that genocide"
Sorry sweaty, you're just helping Trump win if you point out the U.S.'s thirst for blood overrides any concern for collapsing infrastructure or the well being of the population.
Sorry sweaty
You can just say "no offense" and then say something offensive
Just reply "Sending money to isntreal to commit genocide is right-wing"
There is money tree for murder, there is no money tree for literally anything else.
Literally any criticism of the Biden admin is a "Russian disinformation" to them.
But right wing people want to support Israel I thought?
