The CTH podcasters. Nathan J. Robinson. Contrapoints. Thought Slime. Shaun. Michael Moore. hbomberguy. Hasan. Destiny. Vaush. Tim Pool. Ollie. Joe Rogan. Bernie. Maddox. Vic Berger. Carlos Maza. Ezra Klein. Jon Bois. Lindsay Ellis. Dave Rubin. Sarah Z. David Icke.

Everyone has been lambasted as a lib and imperfect and a grifter.

So who's left? Who's good enough that their word is gospel?

  • PermaculturalMarxist [they/them]
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    4 years ago

    No one's word is gospel; that's a really bizzare turn of phrase to use when describing what a prominent leftist "thought leader" would look like. You also are naming a bunch of right wingers like Tim Pool and Ezra Klein which is even more perplexing. Also people on this site disagree on just how lib and bad certain breadtubers and podcasters are because we aren't all of the same tendency, so your answer will vary.

    • PorkrollPosadist [he/him, they/them]
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      4 years ago

      I mean. I guess you're right. The world is too massive and too complex for any single person to see the full picture. In that sense, the premise of the question is flawed. Everyone is seeing different parts of the thing and drawing their conclusions based on those perspectives. Nobody has anything resembling a universal truth, and nobody ever will.

      In the spirit of the circlejerk though I think we should anoint ourselves some new kings and queens who we can decapitate next week.

      • PermaculturalMarxist [they/them]
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        4 years ago

        Eh, I don't think that being limited knowers as individuals and also as a species gets you all the way to "we'll never see the full picture." We have our limits, sure, but together when we collaborate we help overcome these limits through social measures like writing books or conducting studies so that others don't need to start from scratch. I guess it depends on what you consider the "full picture," I just see libs use this line of reasoning dogmatically to undermine leftist class analysis as just another "perspective."

        • PorkrollPosadist [he/him, they/them]
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          4 years ago

          Well yes. It would be a mistake to determine just because we can't know everything that we are doomed to individually conceived perceptions of the world. We are still capable of sharing our knowledge and experience and compiling a more comprehensive understanding of the world. The lines of reasoning which stand up this collective critique and are verified by the accumulation of empirical evidence stand out and prove most useful. My point is mainly that, by the time you turn epistemology into a collaborative project, no single person is dictating it. No single person's word is the "gospel."

      • Ram_The_Manparts [he/him]
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        4 years ago

        Tim Pool is definitely left. He’s not afraid to criticize Trump.

        Pro tip: If you're gonna troll, be subtle. This is way too obvious.

  • TossedAccount [he/him]
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    4 years ago

    Lol this is clearly a bit. Since when was Maddox ever associated with the online left?

  • anthropicprincipal [any]
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    4 years ago

    Communist Collectron will lead us to revolution.

    Instead of collecting items like useless scrap it collects communist posters.

    https://www.reddit.com/r/fo76/comments/g635qi/bethesda_please_remove_the_propaganda_poster_from/

  • T_Doug [he/him]
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    4 years ago

    I don't know about the rest of y'all, but I'm with Kerry.