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Look right, I like a lot of things about the foundational 2007 text Whipping Girl by Julia Serano. But if you've ever been told to read this book without any qualifiers, I'd like to apologise on behalf of the trans community.
Obviously the concepts of traditional and oppositional sexism, the idea of transmisogyny, Serano's analysis of media depictions of trans women, and more are all superb and well worthy of praise. However, Serano is a land of contrasts, as AcidSmiley so concisely put it. She's read both Leslie Feinberg and Kate Bornstein's works, and writes this extremely salient quote:
We must also stop pretending that there are essential differences between women and men. This begins with the acknowledgement that there are exceptions to every gender rule and stereotype, and this simply stated fact disproves all gender theories that purport that female and male are mutually exclusive categories.
Despite all that, Serano has a perspective that's utterly mired in exorsexist* binary-only assumptions, with language to match. On own, describing someone taking estrogen as "hormonally female" or her body prior to hormone replacement therapy as "physically male" would be unpleasantly cisnormative, but just that. I respect fully that the intent of this book is to analyse the ins and outs of being trans in the gender binary, and so the text is focused in that direction. When Serano writes goofy shit like "mtf spectrum" though, you wonder if she wouldn't be better served by thinking a little outside of the two-genders box.
She doesn't want to, though; Julia Serano circa 2007 (the text has not been meaningfully updated to my knowledge) is a brave warrior going against the grain of non binary domination :citation to defend our poor, repressed binary genders. She's taking down those woke non-binary moralists from their ivory towers:
There are many different (but often overlapping) forms of gender entitlement and gender anxiety. For example, one of the most frequently discussed forms of gender entitlement is heterosexism, the belief that heterosexuality is the only "natural," legitimate, or morally acceptable form of sexual desire. Heterosexist gender entitlement ean lead to homophobia, which is an expression of gender anxiety directed against those people who engage in same-sex relationships. Similarly, the gender-entitled belief that all women are (or should be) feminine and men masculine-which some have called cisgenderism-gives rise to transphobia, a gender anxiety that is directed against people who fall outside of those norms. While homophobia and transphobia have both received mainstream attention, thinking in terms of gender entitlement and gender anxiety also allows us to consider less well- known (but just as disparaging) forms of gender and sexual discrimination. For example, many gays and lesbians who believe that all people are "naturally" either homosexual or heterosexual often express biphobia, a gender anxiety directed toward bisexual people because they challenge the presumption that people can only be attracted to one sex or the other. I have also met some people in the transgender community who feel that identifying outside of the male/female binary is superior to, or more enlightened than, identifying within it. Such people often express gender anxiety (binary- phobia?) at people who identify strongly as either female or male.
I would be laughing if I weren't actually really mad about this classic, foundational transfeminist text featuring tons of brainworms about anyone outside the binary. It's a punchline, the phrase "binary-phobia" is perfect to sit right next to "heterophobia" or "cisphobia". It's right up there alongside white westerners claiming to be victims of racism when someone calls them a cracker, even. It should be plainly self-evident how ridiculous a claim this is. I want to ask Serano circa 2007 to tell me which genders have legal recognition - binary or non-binary ones?
It is truly incredible that a woman can write so sharply about the cultural/societal hedgemony of cis gender and heterosexuality, about how the concept of anything being inherently gendered is antithetical to feminism, and then turn around and write a deeply unserious aside about how non-binary people are apparently smug moralists commiting discrimination against people of binary gender due to the same gender anxiety**--in itself a smart concept about how queer people disrupt assumed gender/sexual normality--that drives cis people to be transphobes!! I am for real left somewhat speechless.
I don't think Whipping Girl is a book nobody should read, obviously. But I scoured the bearsite to see if anyone had dome criticism of or even qualified their recommendation of Whipping Girl, and I found nothing. Part of me wonders if anyone has made a concerted criticism of this book before, but surely someone has before me. I yap exclusively for your benefit! I wonder if Sexed Up or Excluded are better, but frankly I'm just disappointed and angry. Truly a joke.
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*Exorsexist, I learned today, is discrimination against people outside the gender binary!
**Serano describes gender anxiety as "the act of becoming irrationally upset or being made uncomfortable by the existence of those people who challenge or bring into question one's gender entitlement." In turn, she describes gender entitlement being "an arrogant conviction that one's own beliefs, perceptions, and assumptions regarding gender and sexuality are more valid than those of other people". She is more or less insinuating that non-binary people are befuddled supremacists who cannot stand... adherence to the gender binary. Cool.
Seeing stuff like this and some of the discourse/responses around it reminds me that I should really do an effort-post about baeddelism and all the fucking "tma/tme" brainworms that emerge from this new kind of terf rethoric, a lot of it tends to (badly) quote serano and misuse the concept of transmisogyny. Its already destroyed large parts of transfem tumblr and is doing enormous harm to many transmasc and enby friends.
I'm extremely worried about this shit spreading here, I'm already seeing the milder variants of that rethoric spread.
(For context, a decent primer on the insidious reaction that is baeddelism : https://www.tumblr.com/nothorses/743139329546846208/lets-talk-about-baeddels)
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Linking to my megathread comment RE: terf sources in the baeddel post, for anyone reading this thread: https://hexbear.net/comment/5535857
TL;DR The version of the baeddel post that has the terf source is from two years ago. The version posted by comrade grym is an updated version from this year, which does not have the terf source (unless I missed it somewhere).
I should say I use the term to mean something more than just the small baeddel groups that existed before. The rethoric is still alive and VERY spread out on tumblr, the old baeddel accounts are still around. Baeddelism the small movement might have been a niche overly online thing but the broader rethoric is still here, just more hidden now. Its gotten to the point where on tumblr if I see someone using the terms tme or tma I systematically check their other posts or who they repost, and almost every time I can find this baeddel or tirf stuff underneath. It made me very sad and anxious because you find it in very popular and well known accounts.
Terfs have found a way to remake arbitrary binaries and to use them for splitting the community more and more. Its a poison. You wouldn't believe the insane harassment and drama that transmasc accounts on tumblr, twitter, etc.. already went through.
I honestly think its a contributing factor to why there are less transmasc comrades here, because if you see a place that's not actively fighting against this rethoric its fair to assume its been spreading there unknowingly.
I think bearsite has less of this than other trans spaces, but it's still here, I've seen trickles of hatred of masculinity, of being male, of men, trans or cis. I won't deny that it makes me feel, (I can't speak for all transmasc folks here) sort of like I don't belong here, I've wandered into a space that isn't intended for me, even though we're all trans together.
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[CW: Enbyphobia, Transphobia, Racism]
To help you feel far less alone because I seldom feel that this actually gets addressed myself, I will actually 100% agree with you and say that I do feel anxiety around "man-hating" stuff myself, even though I definitely do understand where it's coming from, and I've even engaged in it. It makes me feel anxiety as a transfeminine person, and it doubly makes me feel anxiety as a non-binary person because I feel that non-binary people are even more frequently interpreted as just being a "quirky" version of their assigned sex at birth.
In addition, the fact that I'm black makes this even more of a worry because "man-hating" talk has legitimately been used by white feminists to harm men of color. Since I am a black non-binary person who was assigned male at birth, I can't expect most feminists to actually care about me because mainstream feminism is extremely liberal, toxic, and non-intersectional.
Not only that, but I've had legitimately horrid experiences with scratched liberals who have misgendered me while knowing that I'm transfeminine. It's a long story, but in doing so, these people literally asserted that me being assigned male at birth means that I have "male privilege," which fundamentally undermines all of the horrid shit I've had to go through, including losing my family and constant joblessness, as a result of being a trans person of color. They also flat-out called me a "male," and they claimed that this is not misgendering because they fell back on the deeply unserious "male is for sex and man is for gender" shit.
I also feel like, even on Hexbear, too much loose "man hate" can eventually dip into problematic shit, like how we ended up having people express support for 4B until they found out that 4B is chuddy, racist, and transphobic. That was quite an issue. Even if 4B were not racist and transphobic, which no female separatist movement is to be honest because these things are inherent to female separatism, female separatism is an inherently undialectical and unhelpful approach to handling patriarchy, so that is another reason why the support for 4B was a major red flag to me.
People on Hexbear, especially the crackers here, I'd assume, are likely far less cynical than me. When you're like me, you're far more bound to frequently have thoughts in the back of your head as to whether or not the support that someone is offering you is performative or not.
Essentialism should always be unequivocally rejected, but even on Hexbear, it's hard for me to get that vibe unless people flat-out make clear that they are actually rejecting it. In a lot of this discourse about hating men, it's seldom communicated, as if it should be just assumed and as if "male hate" is never used against transfeminine people.
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I sincerely hope not, love our transmasc comrades, but if so I guess here's the first active fight against it. Hoping there won't be too much fighting as I continue to read and slander this book honestly.
Very good that you looked into the original's sources and the weird terf shit, and yes the new one removes those. Its a weird fucking movement and rethoric and it disguises itself behind terms and concepts, and the whole time terfs and tirfs stir shit up and try to split communities further, its good to tread carefully.
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this is wild wtf. maybe the internet was a mistake... this borders on feeling like some kind of op to mislead and fragment the young queer community. cynical isn't a strong enough word.
Babe wake up, new cointelpro just dropped!!
To be real though probably 50% of tumblr posts felt like that
lmao. yeah, i was always just a tumblr orbiter never really waded in or even had an account back in the day, but i have developed that impression over the years. you're gonna find dogshit takes wherever you go online i guess and some site algorithms just reward being really incendiary/"controversial". think twitter is def like this too.
I actually did have a tumblr account, it is more vicious than reddit or twitter. People are out for blood literally 24/7 on tumblr, that's actually how I know about this to start with - a random user screaming at me!
I'm honestly convinced its mostly built and spread by terfs and tirfs in the background, its classic terf op, and at the same time they split the trans communities and encourage harassment or transmascs, enbies, intersex, etc.. comrades, they also have some other rethoric to try and reach them. They push transmascs away then whisper their terf "you see? They hate you!" Poison in their ears.
What's a tirf? Haven't come across the term before, but i'm expecting the worst.
Trans inclusive radical feminism, as in a trans terf, and yes they exist, yes it's fucked.
they fr reinvented every bad feminist idea fron the last 50 years, but for trans women
ive been encountering it / thinking about it lately. would really appreciate an effort post
Please do, I'll read the hell out of that post. I hadn't seen it on the bearsite so foolishly I figured it may be safe to post...
Good post!!
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