• BeamBrain [he/him]
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    Blahaj deserves our eternal hatred for how they treated our trans users while claiming to be a trans-positive instance.

    Edit: lmao

    There really aren’t any good parts to liberalism. If you’re a liberal and the current year starts with a 2, you’re a monster. Like full on, need to be forcefully reducated kinda monster.

    Not being arrested for publicly disagreeing with the government is a good thing.

    Anyone who's paid attention to the ongoing actions to criminalize support for Palestine knows how absurd this is. Those who don't move don't notice their chains.

    • frauddogg [null/void, undecided]
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      Anyone who's paid attention to the ongoing actions to criminalize support for Palestine knows how absurd this is.

      Or the SUCCESS in criminalizing protesting Cop Cities. They still ain't dropped RICO charges aimed at the Cop City protestors in Atlanta last I heard; Uhuru 3's still locked up over the government falsely slandering them as foreign-backed agents

        • citrussy_capybara [ze/hir]
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          Getting to triple-dip into xiyuan, putinrubles, and sorosbucks was too tempting. Hexbear only accepts trans communists, so that’s what I became. While taking medical transition steps isn’t necessary to be trans, it helped with getting into character. Some people claim it’s “gender euphoria” but I attribute it to the satisfaction of committing to the bit to mislead the libs. I got along well with another pretend trans poster, and the DMs turned into a full-blow performative t4t relationship. Eventually we moved in together to stretch the botmoney further. We started a family to pass on the communist bit to a new generation. We never stopped posting. 4 kids and 12 grandchildren later, A wrecker I could not defeat came for me. Cancer. In hospice, surrounded by my loved ones, chosen family, and circle of friends, they asked me what final wisdom I wanted to pass on before handing me the morphine button.

          “Haha, you all fell for it you rubes! I was faking it this whole time. I wasn’t actually fighting for the liberation of marginalised people and the working class. I hate you all!”

          I mash the button while holding my partner’s hand, who congratulates me on the historic bit but calls me a lib for ruining kayfabe. I die in shame.

        • GalaxyBrain [they/them]
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          1 month ago

          Fuuuuck, trans people aren't the political tool of the democratic party by default and you don't get to deny their identity because their beliefs don't align with yours. Speculating that people online claiming to be trans aren't because what they said bothers you is transphobia. People are whatever they say they are.

        • Deinonychus [they/them, comrade/them]
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          Liberals are the most vile scum on earth. They are not our friends, they never were our friends and they never will be our friends. I hope this person suffers the most horrible pain imaginable. I hope this person is forced to live in a mutilated body that brings them nothing but agony.

  • Awoo [she/her]
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    Anti-imperialism does not mean "anti-empire". Imperialism is a system and the belief among libs that we're talking about empires when we say anti-imperialism is caused by their complete and total lack of understanding of any leftist theory.

    Imperialism is the highest stage of capitalism, when the financial class form international groups together and they merge together with the state to steer the entire resources of those states towards the pursuit of more capital for themselves, as a class.

    The imperialists in the world are the west, with the US at its head. Anti-imperialism means that.

    There is no other imperialism in the world. Could Russia emerge as the new leader of imperialism if the existing imperialist leader collapses (the US), yes it could, and it would be the most likely one to become it. But is it imperialist right now? No. It is a capitalist state with a national bourgeoisie pursuing their interests, not yet imperialist without a massive realignment of the international bourgeoisie.

    Dear Blahaj user hungryphrog, please read theory if you want to understand us when we say we're "anti-imperialist", particularly Lenin's "Imperialism, the highest stage of Capitalism". You have misunderstood what that phrase means when we use it.

    Lenin provides a careful, 5-point definition of imperialism:

    "(1) the concentration of production and capital has developed to such a high stage that it has created monopolies which play a decisive role in economic life; (2) the merging of bank capital with industrial capital, and the creation, on the basis of this "finance capital", of a financial oligarchy; (3) the export of capital as distinguished from the export of commodities acquires exceptional importance; (4) the formation of international monopolist capitalist associations which share the world among themselves, and (5) the territorial division of the whole world among the biggest capitalist powers is completed. Imperialism is capitalism at that stage of development at which the dominance of monopolies and finance capital is established; in which the export of capital has acquired pronounced importance; in which the division of the world among the international trusts has begun, in which the division of all territories of the globe among the biggest capitalist powers has been completed."

    I suspect they will never read this due to de-federation, but I had to say it anyway.

    • frauddogg [null/void, undecided]
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      It's more convenient to the worm-eaten neoliberal brain to compartmentalize imperialism down into "imperialism is when foreign military bases" so that any opposition country to them can (to them) be tarred with the same brush we tar the western neoliberals with, but for the crimes (again, to the neoliberal) of either merely establishing infrastructure to defend against constant, coup-intended Amerikan belligerence, or giving the people that Amerikans are busy draining the blood from the means to force the Amerikan ghoul off their necks.

    • heggs_bayer
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      1 month ago

      Ah, but Lenin was le redfash tankie who established the totalitarian Soviet Empire. Why should I, a principled lolbertarian leftist, believe what he says? smuglord

      • Awoo [she/her]
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        Yeah I don't care what Lenin was. The only people saying "anti-imperialism" in the modern context are the socialists so the only definition that matters is the socialist definition.

    • GalaxyBrain [they/them]
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      1 month ago

      Libs will then this isn't what imperialism means to most people and therefore shouldn't be thought of because considering things in useful terms means you can't smugly cite a dictionary definition. To the imperialism will always just mean the vague extension of power and influence by a country.

      • Awoo [she/her]
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        1 month ago

        It doesn't matter if they redefine imperialism to mean "empire" in their heads. When they attack people who say "we're anti-imperialist" like this poster has then they are discussing our definition of imperialism, not their own. We do not mean anti-empire. We mean anti-imperialism in the socialist understanding of the word.

    • AntiOutsideAktion [he/him]
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      1 month ago

      Your ability to craft that explanation into just a few sentences at the top of this comment is so cool and valuable. Thank you doggirl-thumbsup

    • SevenSkalls [he/him]
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      1 month ago

      This is why I like the idea of the counterpropaganda community. I know this is slop, but still, just saying, I like responses like this. Good stuff.

  • Rom [he/him]
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    1 month ago

    https://lemmy.ml/post/22637211/15056851

    They are still using wikipedia as their proof of genocide against the Uyghurs. Libs are deeply unserious people.

    • urmums401k [she/her, they/them]
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      5$ says this guy isn't completely stupid as an adult, if he can admit to being that stupid as a kid.

      Like, when I was very little I genuinely thought "antisemite" was a word for people who didn't like genocide. Because its what I got called when I said killing Palestinians seemed bad. Nearly every adult in my life I didn't hate was Jewish at the time. It was awkward.

  • ihaveibs [he/him]
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    Don't you know empires just spontaneously arise with no structural cause? Just a completely stochastic process that we have no way of understanding!

    • AntiOutsideAktion [he/him]
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      1 month ago

      I really wish I understood that book better. This is clearly a correct place to deploy that theory. blob-no-thoughts I've listened to the audiobook twice, once with Marx Madness and once on my own, but it's really difficult to follow in that format especially when you're working

  • heggs_bayer
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    1 month ago

    Sometimes when I see big threads of ostensibly left wing people railing against tankies, I have a brief moment where I ask myself "did I get sucked into an online cult? Are we (tankies) the baddies?" Then I see takes like this:

    Tankies think only one thing can be bad at the same time

    https://lemmy.ml/post/22637211/15051668

    All the non voters say it’s not their fault, because Kamala is more to blame. They think blame is a limited resource. They think you can only blame either the DNC OR the voters, not both.

    It’s the same as with China. They think if America is bad, then China has to be good. If there’s evidence of China being bad, the counterevidence is that America is worse.

    Tankies think only one thing can be bad at a time. It’s the same with genocide, too. We can’t care about Ukraine and trans people and West Bank, because WhAt AbOuT gAzA.

    The tankie mind only has room for one single bad thing in each subject. Only one bad genocide. Only one bad empire. Only one bad politician. They can’t conceive of two things being bad at the same time. It does not compute. When they say they understand two things being bad, they’re lying. They can only understand it in short term memory. They can’t internalise it and apply it to long term memory. Fifteen seconds after they admit two things can be bad, they forget it. It’s like clockwork. “America and China are both bad… 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 13, 14, 15… China can’t be bad because America is bad! I’m not to blame for Trump’s win because Kamala ran a weak campaign! Gaza is the only genocide that matters!”

    and this

    Hong Kong is a CCP colony

    https://lemmy.ml/post/22637211/15051225

    without overseas military bases

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hong_Kong_Garrison

    And if you’re gonna say Hong Kong doesn’t count because it’s already been assimilated into the empire, that’s not great evidence against it being an empire.

    and I realize I'm not that bad after all.

    • BodyBySisyphus [he/him]
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      Tankies think only one thing can be bad at the same time

      Meanwhile any criticism of Kamala Harris got answered with "but Trump worse tho"
      projection

    • TheDoctor [they/them]
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      I have a brief moment where I ask myself "did I get sucked into an online cult? Are we (tankies) the baddies?"

      I relate to this and I think this is a healthy impulse to consider. There are high-control aspects to this community, but this is true for so many commonplace activities and communities which are more socially acceptable as well. Society in general has an interest in not teaching people to recognize power dynamics as they are and to recognize high-control organizations. Because to gain the knowledge to consent to a power dynamic is to gain the conscious ability to withdraw that consent.

      Personally, I take regular breaks from here as I deem it healthy and while I’m here, I’m more than happy to concede control to admins, mods, and some more active users. They work together to create an environment I enjoy. I’d liken it to the sort of control a good coach has over their team much sooner than I’d liken it to a cult. Maybe there are people for whom the control is felt more strongly, but I’d imagine that’s more related to an inability to log off or ideological differences than it is to individual injustice.

    • ShimmeringKoi [comrade/them]
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      Those moments come fewer and further between the longer you stare at the crimes these people desperately want to forget committing

  • Rom [he/him]
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    Drag noticed something after the election: All the non voters say it’s not their fault, because Kamala is more to blame. They think blame is a limited resource. They think you can only blame either the DNC OR the voters, not both.

    It’s the same as with China. They think if America is bad, then China has to be good. If there’s evidence of China being bad, the counterevidence is that America is worse.

    Tankies think only one thing can be bad at a time. It’s the same with genocide, too. We can’t care about Ukraine and trans people and West Bank, because WhAt AbOuT gAzA.

    The tankie mind only has room for one single bad thing in each subject. Only one bad genocide. Only one bad empire. Only one bad politician. They can’t conceive of two things being bad at the same time. It does not compute. When they say they understand two things being bad, they’re lying. They can only understand it in short term memory. They can’t internalise it and apply it to long term memory. Fifteen seconds after they admit two things can be bad, they forget it. It’s like clockwork. “America and China are both bad… 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 13, 14, 15… China can’t be bad because America is bad! I’m not to blame for Trump’s win because Kamala ran a weak campaign! Gaza is the only genocide that matters!”

    I wish I had nothing better to do than to sit around all day and get angry over shit I made up.

    • ShimmeringKoi [comrade/them]
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      1 month ago

      All the non voters say it’s not their fault, because Kamala is more to blame.

      I read that sentence and my mind immediately conjured a photo montage of the last year of girlboss nazism set to the Brodyquest music.

      police violence

      Shoutout the college kid who's shoulder socket I can still hear being twisted apart out by the weight of three large pigs

    • BeamBrain [he/him]
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      1 month ago

      The real reason libs hate Mao is because they encountered his quote "no investigation, no right to speak" and could not live in such a way without spontaneously combusting

      • hello_hello [comrade/them]
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        They read it as "no investigation no, right to speak", you have to forgive them for being like that very-normal

    • BeamBrain [he/him]
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      1 month ago

      They're saying China is an empire because it has 4 foreign military bases and comparing its treatment of the Uyghurs to the Trail of Tears lmao

  • Edamamebean [she/her]
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    1 month ago

    Sometimes I have faith in the west, but then I am reminded of how many people here explicitly and openly support western imperialism because they are scared of Russia or China doing to them what the West does to the rest of the world. And none of this is subtextual or implied, everyone just says it out loud. They know it's imperialism and they love it.

  • lil_tank [any, he/him]
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    1 month ago

    Anti imperialism is supporting small countries, the ultimate goal of anti imperialists is to split big countries and have international law forbid population above 1% of the world's

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    It's really weird to watch 196-adjacent spaces just completely ignore their own allies throwing trans people under the bus after this election.

    But yeah, now is the time to double-down on the real threat: "tankies".