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    Remember, the fascists aren't doing the "let them make their own minds up" thing when it comes to ideology. You shouldn't be either.

    One of the reasons I consistently see the older communist party members from the last era cites for the decline of the ideologies is that they weren't able to pass on their ideology to their children. They were forced to stay silent due to fear and this led to simply allowing the state and cultural hegemony to give their children the desired ideology of the state.

    https://www.jacobinmag.com/2019/10/theodor-bergmann-german-communist-world-war-ii

    To what extent did the militant traditions of the prewar period still exist in workers’ heads?

    They existed in the heads of the old people, but the old people were scared to speak a word to their children, because they feared that the children would gossip at school. Thus, no new generation was raised. There was, so to speak, a natural generational break.

    Make your kids communists, if you do not then you are simply allowing the hegemony and the state to educate your children for you. There is no "make your own mind up", that is just accepting the political education of the liberal state.

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        You can choose not to but know that your influence on the future of humanity will be nothing, you will be forgotten and your entire life will be essentially just you sponging off resources from the world without putting anything back into it (unless like, you make a habit of helping people or some shit)

        • MiraculousMM [he/him, any]M
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          4 years ago

          sponging off resources from the world without putting anything back into it

          That's some reactionary bullshit right there

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            I can't sleep at night because of the incessant hooting of owls. Goddamn reactionaries

        • BeamBrain [he/him]
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          4 years ago

          just you sponging off resources from the world without putting anything back into it

          Labor doesn't count?

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            Labor has to have a goal m8, otherwise it's just you keeping your ribs from meeting your spine. Granted, meaningful labor is hard to come by these days but even trivial and meaningless labor is going to something good if you are using it to ensure the next generation of man has a shot at living a better life than you

        • Healthcare_pls [he/him]
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          My one hang up with having kids is the climate apocalypse. Like how do you feel okay putting a life into the world knowing that it will suffer some of the worst environments in human history?

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            • Healthcare_pls [he/him]
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              I guess I see it differently because I take the view that none of us chose to be born, so life is a situation foisted upon us that we have to make the best out of, rather than a neutral opportunity. I see the argument that one’s choice (keyword) to not have a child due to material conditions as valid mostly due to working in abortion. I suppose I just extend the argument beyond personal finances into the climate

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            People had kids in the middle ages when plague ran rampant and it looked to be the fall of everything. People had kids during the great depression and WWII when it looked like Industrial society was falling into a inescapable pit of darkness and horror

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            Your descendents probably won't know where their politics and religion come from, but they're more likely to share the same beliefs as you do than the descendents of perfect strangers.

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            idk why you wouldn't wanna do whatever small part you may have in shaping the future of humanity

    • DickFuckarelli [he/him]
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      4 years ago

      I have one. She's already a pariah in the community because I taught her to share.

  • Reversi [none/use name]
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    4 years ago

    "A thing I see more and more often" on the Internet means "once, possibly twice"

  • Ericthescruffy [he/him]
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    Yeah....just speaking from my own experience, I know that with this pandemic my goal posts shifted from: "limit and monitor screen time to 1 hour a day total" to: "...I guess just make sure he's not completely brain poisoned by youtube by the time he's 7."

    Maybe I should have done more but there was no daycare, I am still working full time, and it was 105 degrees outside, and I spent a good amount of time on parenting controls to force regular breaks and prevent various content.

    Now that he's in distance learning its gotten better and I've managed to cut him back but there's an entire generation of kids who have retreated into online spaces as a coping mechanism for all this and this sort of thing doesn't surprise me at all.

    EDIT: Just to be clear though: yes I intend to radicalize my kid. IMO he needs to be a bit older before you get into anything approaching Marx, but I'm making conscious effort to instill values that collaboration can be more important in life then competition, I kind of nudge him towards understanding concepts of empire and power when he watches cartoons like Avatar, and in general try to instill the importance of understanding we all live in a society.

  • PlantsRcool [any]
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    4 years ago

    There is a pernicious idea among libs that the next generation will save us (how convenient because then they don't have to actually do anything). They're so much better they think. Idk man their are plenty of racist and fascist zoomers

    • GrouchoMarxist [comrade/them,use name]
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      4 years ago

      You know, I see the same sentiment amongst leftists as well, that the zoomers are based and will execute us for not being as cool as them but there's much, much more reactionary/fascist zoomers

      • Funicio [he/him]
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        4 years ago

        There's also this idea that many zoomers are political extremists, when the vast majority of zoomers I know hate politics.