Please come out over 50%.
https://twitter.com/LaRazon_Bolivia/status/1317977562174377986/
Precinct went 100% for MAS https://twitter.com/SergioDelazerda/status/1317931798358380545
Another good MAS precinct in La Paz, 65% of the vote https://twitter.com/TPU19J/status/1317968741490216961/photo/1
Official results here, no national results yet.. all of the votes counted so far are "Exterior" National results are beginning to trickle in https://computo.oep.org.bo/
Spanish results, tentative... looks like 33k votes counted: CREEMOS - 11.9k, MAS - 10.7k, CC - 10.5k https://twitter.com/maibortpetit/status/1317989087530319873
8:35 EST: 6,408 votes, MAS @ 66.89%
8:44 EST: 8,303 votes, MAS @ 57.34%
8:55 EST: 9,895 votes, MAS @ 51.56%
9:05 EST: Results API is currently down, 503 and 502 bad gateway.
9:12 EST: Whole site is down, 504 Gateway Timeout
9:16 EST: National results only (no abroad) MAS @ 43.42% (down ~2%)
9:22 EST: There appears to be an issue with the official reporting, when I last checked the total count was at 0.33%, and it went down to 0.18% and the results are way off at the moment. Going to give things some time to shake out a little before updating again.
9:47 EST: Still having major issues with the site, Ben Norton of Grayzone is on site at the OEP where the results are being tabulated and with 4% of actas reporting MAS was UP, then the system crashed and the results were reversed. https://twitter.com/BenjaminNorton/status/1318005176016556032
10:12 EST: MAS - 38.92% (21.7k); CC - 52.46% (29.26k); 55.7K total votes
10:25 EST: MAS - 38.34% (27.6k); CC - 52.82% (36.6k); 69.4K total votes
10:55 EST: Going to stop live-posting results unless something noteworthy happens with the actual results. Official statements are saying full results will be on Tuesday, so watching the line won't do us much good rn. https://www.telesurtv.net/news/tse-boliviano-anuncia-resultados-oficiales-estarian-martes-20201018-0026.html
/c/latam also has a thread going documenting the day's general fuckery https://hexbear.net/post/39940
Please Mas, learn from allende, Purge every fascist from the military
The results are getting reversed after a mysterious computer crash, army is already out in the streets in anticipation of mass protest because of election fuckery.
From what I am reading these initial votes are the "Bolivians Abroad" tally... so maybe I'm getting worked up too soon.
Yeah, of course. I'm just sayin. If they can't rig it - that would be hilarious.
The Bolivians abroad are going to be more strongly supportive of MAS than the country as a whole, generally
Cmon cmon cmon please let something good happen this year
If MAS wins, this will probably just led to a military coup with mass killings.
On the one hand you're correct, but shouldn't MAS be prepared for it if they aren't libs? But also, doesn't it prove the fascists right if they are prepared?
MAS was a mix of socialism and katarismo. Basically the new middle class sold out, some ethnic divisions got reignited and the army was compromised because once again the nice guy politician didn't purge his enemies.
Yes, but what I'm trying to say is that you may as well become Moaist if your opponents are going to accuse you of it regardless.
Or at the very least go the chavista path, pure electoralism without control of the police and military is a trap.
God I wish there was a country that would stand up for people or does stand for these people and has the resources to actually do it (Cuba).
All it needs to become is a non-internationalist force for anti-socialism.
Soviets lowkey sucked at spreading the revolution. Cuba basically was the only country that tried to spread the revolution.
well i guess i'm forced to agree considering they aren't around anymore. but the vietnamese were blowing americans out of the sky with soviet weapons and i think that counts for something
hey they supported a bunch of revolutions and socialist states, Cuba, vietnam, DPRK, China, the greek communists, the spanish republicans, the ethiopian derg before it became cringe, etc. just because some failed doesnt mean they sucked at it, plus cuba had fidel and che instead of the terrible corn lord and his succesors.
Spain
Um didn’t they fuck that up by sowing disunity with the anarchists?
its not stalin fault or the ussr that the MLs and trots would start fighting each other because of sectarian shit and that would eventually include the republicans and the anarquists, like in korea the communists, socdems and anarchists join together and formed the DPRK
Yeah. IIRC the British were already in the process of occupying Greece by the end of the war and USSR was in such bad shape that Stalin didn't want to potentially start a war with the other Allies.
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/10/18/world/americas/bolivia-election-evo-morales.html
noooo, you can't just allow democracy to empower poor indigenous people.
we need to think about the imperialists' resource extraction & the settler-colonial bloodsuckers' feelings and just how divisive Morales' tone was !
Very frustrating. The entire framing of this article - between unity/division and peace/violence - is completely disingenuous. The two voters given significant attention are those disillusioned with the socialists. They briefly mention someone voting for Arce, but not why, or anything.
It starts with the nonsense "sowing division" rhetoric that means absolutely fucking nothing. This is just code for "this outlet dislikes this leader." Sanders, Corbyn, Morales, Putin, Castro, Saddam, whoever you want, they all sow division because the newspapers dislike them, while near-universally reviled candidates like HRC do not.
And when the count is announced, large swaths of the country are likely to be angry, political observers say, and violence is a real possibility.
Wouldn't this be the logical outcome if the people believed an election to be stolen from them? If a democratic system fails to democratically produce a candidate, wouldn't the result be the assertion by the majority of their political will? Should people just accept a stolen election and go home? What is worse: to be deprived of democracy (looking at you, Democracy Dies in Darkness) or justified political violence?
In the weeks leading up the election, the United Nations documented at least 41 acts of political violence.
Let's not get into who against whom, or who the government is right now, for example. The socialists are violent, the centrists are peaceful, I'm not going to muddy this with details.
Mr. Mesa is running as the anti-Morales candidate, promising a return to peace after years of political and social division.
Peace if you're white, not if you're indigenous. The country was peaceful before the coup - even this article isn't concretely alleging any wrongdoing by the Morales government. Again, implying the violence is by the socialists, when it isn't.
and in some places fulfilled that promise, building schools, hospitals and roads. The country’s poverty rate fell to 35 percent of the population from 60 percent
some places*. lmao, what a piece of shit, if you want to accuse him of only helping certain regions just say which ones. Or why bother if it's hard?
Mr. Morales ran Bolivia amid a commodities boom — with money pouring into the country — and his party controlled congress for all 14 years of his presidency.
This is kind of interesting, NYT! Does Bolivia's mineral wealth provide an opportunity for international investment? Is that - maybe - the crux of this entire issue?
Once again reminding all comrades to viciously troll the hypocrites in the far right bolivia subreddit. They are already starting a propaganda campaign
I'm not confident that MAS will win in the first round, theres been more consolidation around Carlos Mesa this time than last.
That may be the case, really early on though the minor parties have 8% of the result, so that might be enough to swing it, it that holds.
I hadn't seen the exit polls yet prior to this, but things do look promising. Let's hope that exit polls hold.
Is Mesa actually center left or is that party "center left" like the Dems are center left?
Most of the time I've seen him referred to as center right, but he's a third way social democrat, i.e. Obama/Starmer/ect and would ally himself with the democratic party rather than Republicans, or like Bolsenaro.
Well it's not looking good for MAS at the moment, CC has an outright majority.... though I am not sure exactly where the vote is coming in from. Most of the MAS strongholds are expected to be delayed.
MAS strongholds are in rural areas so they take longer to report usually
The people: overwhelmingly vote MAS
how many times do i have to tell you??? socialism doesn't work! nukes la paz
