A Christmas Prince, The Royal Wedding and The Royal Baby. (And the Princess Switch trilogy)

They’re about a woman from New York who falls in love with a prince from Europe and marries him.

I thought the country they live in is meant to be tiny like San Marino or Lichtenstein. And the film seems to suggest it’s the case, given they say Aldovia doesn’t have a military.

But this map (albeit from 1419) of Aldovia, Belgravia and Pengali, the latter being countries in a parallel in-universe project and a sequel would completely alter history if the countries were or are even a bit of the size.

Like obviously it’s a silly thing made for Americans who don’t understand the scale of Europe’s geography and history but it’s funny thinking about the historical ramifications.

What happened in either World Wars. Was Pengali part of the USSR? Or even further back with Napoleon or the 30 years war etc.

  • NephewAlphaBravo [he/him]
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    6 days ago

    Hiding a whole alternate history story in a shitty hallmark christmas movie is a good bit i-think-that

    • context [fae/faer, fae/faer]
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      6 days ago

      looking forward to the spinoff trilogy in which the aldovian aristocracy sees their chance to seize control by asserting the claims of the old deposed monarchy following the post-soviet collapse of belgravia s.s.r. so they get to do a liberal-monarchist anastasia restoration fantasy

  • Bureaucrat [pup/pup's, null/void]
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    6 days ago

    Poland GONE. Bulgaria GONE. Hungary GONE. Belarus GONE. Ukraine mostly GONE. Yugoslavian nations GONE. Estonia partially GONE. Lithuania GONE. Georgia possibly GONE. Armenia possibly GONE. Azerbaijan? STILL AROUND. Greece partially GONE

    • ComradeMonotreme [she/her, he/him]
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      6 days ago

      It’s funny that kingdoms comparable to the Austrian-Hungarian empire and the Polish-Lithuanian commonwealth still exist in 2019 in this universe but are quaint holiday destinations not regional powers. I shit you not one of Aldovia’s main industries is Christmas ornaments.

      • Moss [they/them]
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        6 days ago

        Becoming a supplier of Christmas ornaments was the only way to save Austria Hungary

        I love how little Americans know or care about Europe. There must be a significant portion of the audience of these movies who didn't know these countries are fake

  • AntifaSuperWombat [she/her]
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    6 days ago

    Found the original map. It’s by Henricus Hondius (1641) but it actually depicts ancient Europe.

    Show

    https://sanderusmaps.com/our-catalogue/antique-maps/europe/general-and-large-regions/old-antique-map-of-europe-antique-by-henricus-hondius-26233

  • huf [he/him]
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    6 days ago

    but europe has some tiny countries that actually have real princes and shit. why not pick one of those for the movie?

    shakespeare apparently wrote a play where bohemia had a sea coast. what is it with anglos?

    • came_apart_at_Kmart [he/him, comrade/them]
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      6 days ago

      because reality exists to service burger brain treat shows like this, not the other way around.

      the people who watch this level of slop aren't looking for a documentary. they don't want to even learn one singular fact about the world. facts are nerds. they want to emotionally resonate like a tuning fork for several hours with the fleeting notion an 8 year might have while looking at a Disney drawn castle.

        • imogen_underscore [it/its, she/her]
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          6 days ago

          definitely see people on here frequently taking the anti-treat stuff to an extreme hyper-Maoist sort of level, as if all escapism is bad

        • huf [he/him]
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          6 days ago

          no but if the place is just set dressing and basically consists of a name, why not use andorra or liechtenstein? they both sound like fantasy names, they both have weird prince shit going on, and they both exist.

          • Krem [he/him, they/them]
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            6 days ago

            or at least do 10 seconds of bland worldbuilding and put it like a normal euro mircrostate principality, squeezed in between the borders of two or three normal countries. but nooo, some dumbass at netflix production dept just went "it's europe, the countries are over here, in the general europe area"

            • huf [he/him]
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              6 days ago

              i'm looking forward to movies set in Los Vangelis, Chadifornia in the USA. why not.

          • jaywalker [they/them, any]
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            5 days ago

            Someone else would be saying: "why didn't they just make up a fake country if they weren't going to do it right?" The people actually making this shit are probably just trying to pay rent and don't care, their bosses definitely don't care beyond making money, and I guess the people watching it don't either. You've probably thought about it more in these comments than any of them ever did.

  • ComradeMonotreme [she/her, he/him]
    hexagon
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    6 days ago

    Apparently someone did a medium article about this 5 years ago

    https://michaelagold.medium.com/piecing-together-the-christmas-prince-timeline-8b51c3dfde45

    Also all the actors cast as Pengali and use Chinese alphabet. Just wild.

  • SoyViking [he/him]
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    6 days ago

    Even in a fantasy world where Ukraine spans from sea to sea they're not getting Crimea back.

  • Chapo_is_Red [he/him]
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    6 days ago

    I want a 3 hour video essay exploring the history of the Christmas Prince cinematic universe and its points of divergence from our timeline.

  • Barabas [he/him]
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    6 days ago

    Aldovia and Belgravia would be on par with France or Germany.

    Pengali is a tier below but would still be a regional power.

  • CyborgMarx [any, any]
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    6 days ago

    lmao what a line up of fictional monstrosities, might as well bring back the Ottomans and Austro-Hungary

  • WeedReference420 [he/him, they/them]
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    6 days ago

    I already have a weird obsession with the Christmas Prince films and them seemingly being set in a semi Ace Combat style parallel universe is not going to help with that

    • ThermonuclearEgg [she/her, they/them]
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      6 days ago

      This is counteracted by the existence of the Globus Polski, which is entirely Poland. On the flip side, they don't have amerikkka I guess

  • Deadend [he/him]
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    6 days ago

    In the Christmas-verse I assume the entire world converted to Christianity and racism/slavery never happened. All conflicts were settled via gift contests.

    Yet somehow, everything basically ended up in modern late-stage capitalism.

    No, I’ve never seen these movies, but I played an hour of Infinite Nikki and I assume it all works the same way.