idk wtf I did but I woke up 2 days ago with this pain in my shoulder right inside where the shoulder itself meets my chest and man it hurts. It's so bad in the morning I can't lift my arm over my head. But as the day goes on (and taking some nsaids) it lessens a bit.
What did I do to myself?
Got something like that happening right now, and I've had it several times before. If it were in my left arm, I'd rush to the hospital. It's a deep, burning ache that might be a nerve or something. But yeah, it's part of getting older.
Holy fuck we're all so decrepit. I was counting on you guys damnit!
I think we need to join the swoletariat A.S.A.Fucken.P.
My mum started getting jacked in her 60s or so and it was really impressive to see. She seemed surprised I even noticed but she went from just, uh, well roughly me-shaped, to sinewy and lean.
Fuck I'm so lazy though. :( :(Is there a Stirner quote I can use to cope and excuse myself instead?
Apparently humans go through two major aging events, 40’s and 60s.
I think I just recently went thru the one for my 40s. The last two years my fingers just get stiff and hurt. I have to use no pillows (or one very very thin one) I need a stupidly soft bed (I’m a side sleeper), and was diagnosed with sleep apnea two years ago.
Like others said, welcome to getting older.
Like others said, welcome to getting older.
Thanks comrade.Might be time to start doing yoga/pilates/martial arts stretches. I've entered one of these aging periods myself and yeah, sometimes I wake up absolutely bodied. But when I remember to do that physical stuff (reverse planks saved my lower back) it tends to settle down and things feel okay again. Reminds me, I've been slacking off. Probably gonna start feeling busted again soon.
I was gonna say that sleeping wrong has never caused any problems for me (except for the rare occasion where I pull my calf muscles but I suspect that is a different thing).
Would suck if I have to deal with this shit in the coming years. I am already not looking forward to the rest of my life lmao.
It’s called getting old. As you get into your 40s, things like this are going to happen more and more frequently. Better start getting used to it now.
Let me inject a little hope, for me "getting used to it" involved making time for exercises to rehab and strengthen my problem areas. It's absolutely helped me, highly recommend doing so as one's able
Strength training is also way overlooked for health and longevity. It has large benefits even for 90+ year olds. At that age, your hip mobility and strength is one of the most important health indicators. If you can’t get up from sitting, your quality and length of life rapidly diminish.
Unfortunately, the people constantly telling you exercise is really really good for you are correct.
Really pisses me off how often the advice I've ignored my whole life turns out to be the solution to my various miseries.
I'm so lucky not to have had to live a life that's super hard on my joints and shit, so I've gotten away with it for far too long, but this thread is waking me up to myself, again.
100%, but it doesn’t change the fact that random things you could get away with in your youth like sleeping in a wrong position (and hence never noticed any problem to begin with) will now easily develop into nagging problems. It’s part of aging, more and more problems will come up and our physical capacity as a whole will deteriorate. Exercises help, but we cannot fight the process of aging itself.
I think we agree, I only wanna quibble over the word "fight" though. I can fight even if I know I'll lose. And in the meantime I get to be more in touch with my body, and it'll perform better and withstand the insults of daily life better than if I hadn't bothered. I'm not trying to imply my stretches and PT can stop or reverse the natural aging process. Just putting myself in a better position to deal with what I already know is coming. Peace.
as a fellow ancient decaying millenial i recommend magnesium before bed. either citrate or even better glycinate (chelated). most westerners are lacking magnesium and it serves as a natural muscle relaxant
you will sleep more log like. otherwise yeah i get some bad ones some nights probably from cats making me sleep very still. also my job is intensely physical with no 48 hr muscle recovery time (i only get 1 day off at time) and i think it's tearing my muscle fibers apart instead of bulking me up
Yo, thanks for the heads up. I always forget which vitamins and minerals do what and so just fall back to my bare minimum.
yeah. i call shit like that (slept weird, now have pain) sleep injuries. to avoid them, i try to go to bed well before becoming exhausted. or if i am super wiped out, i try to be very intentional when and where i am positioning myself. it's easy to fall asleep in an awkward position when you're wiped out completely.
i'm also a broken record about undiagnosed sleep apnea, because the unconcious movements and flopping your brain tells your body to do can generate some very weird postures that are jank on your mechanical body but somehow result in you being able to breathe easier.
most of the time sleep injuries will work themselves out as you stay out of the posture that stressed them and made them tender.
also, i had been doing routine sun salutations for years since my late 20s, off and on. i definitely noticed my body becoming crankier, stiffer, and more random pull-pain prone when i went through long periods without doing them. i'm in my 40s now. about a year ago i resolved to start every workday morning with 5 before i do anything else, i.e. waking up 10 minutes earlier. they are done fast and hit a lot of my problem areas (upper/mid/low back, hamstrings, shoulders). it's been a game changer for my mornings and the general day of being in my body, maintaining good posture, and maneuvering it around mechanically with balance. i think of it now as this alignment protocol i go through, like something out of an operator's manual for heavy, complex equipment. it's also a massive check in for lung capacity and upper respiratory function and all kinds of mental shit, but to the point, i probably haven't gotten a sleep injury in at least a year. and i was probably getting them like quarterly more or less into my late 30s early 40s.
. i think of it now as this alignment protocol i go through, like something out of an operator's manual for heavy, complex equipment.
Yeah, when I'm actually on my physical fitness shit I call it "maintaining the meat machine."
Does adrenochrome actually do anything? If I were to break open an EpiPen/Auviq and drink it, would it affect me?
afaik based on a trip report I remember hearing on the QAnonAnonymous podcast it's a mild euphoria so maybe?
That seems like weaker epinephrine in that case. I find it hilarious that a key component of the qanon mythos is a less potent form of a drug that your body produces and is easy to produce (I have no idea if this is true or not, I don't know how drugs get made)
As I understand it, it's not very euphoric. Think about how sick adrenaline dumps feel very soon after. I've been advised that if I ever need to administer epinephrine to myself that I will feel like absolute shit and likely vomit.
That said, there was a crew moving in the periphery of my social circles growing up that were straight up addicts/regular abusers of epinephrine (or rather that class of drugs/chems, I forget what it's called.) Me thinks they enjoyed Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas too much and took it too litereally.
and now that I think about it, a lot of drugs I enjoy also commonly come with regurgitation side effects. Hmmmm.
Anyway the shit definitely is not good for your longevity, QAnon myth: busted.
I don't know how old you are but as you get older odd, inexplicable pains are more common. I'm in late middle age. Yesterday was a first for me. When I yawned wrong - I got a sharp unpleasant pain in my the lower front part of my neck. What the fuck - from yawning wrong? I felt like I'd imagine I'd feel if I was in a street fight and a dirty fighter used a trick he loved like smashing a knuckle into my neck. Incredible, sudden pain.
For the first few seconds I thought it was funny. Aches and pains - what can you do? But after 5 to 10 seconds I started to worry I might have to go the emergency room. The pain didn't lessen at all and and my neck felt wrong. What the fuck - this is not funny. I started walking around the room to try to relax because that's all I could do. After ~20 seconds (it felt like 20 minutes) the pain finally started to go away. And then ~60 seconds later all I had was a tiny soreness.
all the people saying that this is a function of getting older are making me anxious, i periodically experience this and i’m 20 lol
It gets more common with age but it’s definitely normal to get random aches and pains when you’re young too. Just less of them lol
: my back hurts: 
EDIT: but for real, yes I do have experience with this unfortunately. Only started in my thirties or so.
Shit happens and it will get worse. Let me join the others in welcoming you to middle age.
Highly recommend mobility and strength exercises for your trouble spots. Make it strong and it's less likely to blow up on you from mundane normal activities.
Personal anecdote: I have a shitty back and I had to start PT and exercises bc I can't be laid up an entire week from putting fruit down on the kitchen counter again
As others said, it's age.
It can also potentially be your mattress. I'm a side sleeper, but I invested into a soft mattress a few years ago and now my sleep is always really comfortable. I might not sleep as much as I want but it isn't painful.
Medium or firm mattresses aren't for side sleepers. Maybe that's what you have?
Medium or firm mattresses aren't for side sleepers. Maybe that's what you have?
I sleep on a futon
kind of a hard mattress thingy.Oh, have you simply considered sleeping on a soft futon?
Sorry, Comrade, I shouldn't have assumed. I also slept on a futon for many years until fairly recently. It's rough and probably the cause of your discomfort.
It's okay! I actually have a bed, but I found the futon easier to sleep on. Maybe I should switch over to the bed which has just been covered in clothes and papers.
the bed which has just been covered in clothes and papers.
Real dirtbag hours. I bet you skip showers and think "hell yeah crust punk as hell" too huh? No? Oh. There I go projecting again. Fuck.
I recommend a floor bed, like a nice foam one. Has been fantastic for my back and the act of getting up off the floor to get out of bed has increased by hip strength quite a bit lol.
I also preferred futons and couches over beds, this is way better now
I swear most of the shit people say about aging is made up (or at least that it's not so cut-and-dry as "this starts happening the microsecond you hit 40 years of age"), I've been having this type of post-sleep-ache thing happen to me for as long as I can remember, at least since I was in my early 20s. Sometimes complications of having a shitty human body happen, as long as it's not something serious/chronic you just roll with it until it goes away.
Although also I noticed that losing a considerable amount of weight did help me with reducing general acheyness.
Yeah oddly enough some of my issues (like waking up with numb limbs from positional sleep fuckery) is much less common now than it was when I was younger. A lot of stuff I try now I'm better at than when I was "in my physical prime" too. I suspect I'm just lucky / HRT is magic / it's just a matter of time before it all comes crumbling down.
I'm so much better at a lot of things than I was when I was younger, like learning new skills or playing video games, because I'm way more patient and willing to trial and error than I was when I was like, under 25. There isn't a single game I was better at when I was a kid that I'm not WAY better at now.
Damn straight. I stopped gaming because I have issues and can't ever just relax and enjoy things lately (for the last few years) but I was clutching 1v5s in CS:GO in my mid 30s against scrub ass nolife teenagers, after an 8+ hour work day. Like you said, we're better at learning to learn.
I suspect in my case at the time I also had a more complex life that meant I would session and then rest, sleep, process and learn subconsciously before coming back to the game. Where as when I was a kid I would just do nothing else and make no progress, because I left no room to develop.Skating too, before I stopped doing that again. Couldn't ollie for shit as a kid, then when I was "too old" for it I was able to analytically solve the problem, digest the advice, watch myself failing to do the thing and correct the mistakes. Wish I'd stuck with it but eh, if I really wanted to I would have.
Something like that happened to my shoulder when I was 30~ and I had to sleep in a weird position for 6 months before it went away.
Shit, that's a long time. Hopefully it clears up on it's own.
No but I have with my neck a few times. I ask my doc for a muscle relaxant which makes it hurt less and increases my range of motion.
