• anthm17 [he/him]
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      4 years ago

      God I wish he would pivot to the left while still being a massive asshole.

      • VolcelPolice [any]
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        4 years ago

        Honestly as much as I love the idea of a left wing Trump I don't think I could square that with all the shitty things he's done

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      Seriously though if he were smart he'd announce he'll push for M4A, tuition debt cancellation, unprecedented investment in fusion (and maybe solar though might be overkill) and accuse Biden of wanting to steal Americans' money by starting wars and he'd sweep the bulk of the left vote (and a big chunk of those who've tuned out) in a heartbeat, even without needing to renounce the racism and xenophobia he stoked. Biden would be so helpless against that it wouldn't even be funny. A politician who wanted to win would see immediately how Biden has painted himself into a corner. But since they are both trying to lose, his "rebranding" schtick seems more like a last ditch attempt to have his most loyal "politically incorrect" base abandon him.

        • Rev [none/use name]
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          4 years ago

          Yeah. Because at the end of the day talk is cheap and desperation makes even principled people second guess themselves.

      • Pezevenk [he/him]
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        4 years ago

        Why do you think 1) most of the left would be stupid enough to trust him and 2) that he is trying to appeal to the left?

        • Rev [none/use name]
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          4 years ago

          I don't think he's trying to appeal to the left, I think he's doing his best to lose without losing face. But if he were trying to appeal to left sensibilities then that's how it would go down since it would 1) significantly depress the vote for Biden and 2) give some hope to the desperate to cling on to (not Communists, just people with leftists sensibilities and/or in a financial rut). Remember how his rep jumped up with the paltry Trump bux.

          • Pezevenk [he/him]
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            4 years ago

            The point is that this is not his base, and the only result would be that he would piss off his base while few people would be swayed, and then there would of course be the risk of pissing everyone off even worse and maybe radicalising some people when he inevitably ended up not delivering.

            • Rev [none/use name]
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              4 years ago

              Well arguably his donor base is different from Biden so he could deliver some of it if here were inclined so. He doesn't seem to have close enough ties to the pharmaceutical lobby (a few companies excepted), unlike Biden and I don't think it would piss off his supporters nor his donors if he were to create government incentives to massively invest in fusion and nuclear, and even thermal solar. But again this is a purely academic discussion because he has neither pivoted nor intends to do so.

              • Pezevenk [he/him]
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                4 years ago

                First of all, fusion? The technology that doesn't even properly exist yet?

                Second, both Trump and everyone else around the US government does have close ties to the pharmaceutical lobby, as well as the fossil fuel lobbies. And the majority of his supporters have severe brain worms and they think that M4A and renewables are evil communism.

                Like, it just doesn't make any sense for him to pivot. EVEN if it went over well with his support, that's not all that matters. People in power always have to look at the long term consequences of what they are doing. It is dangerous for the American status quo if suddenly both parties just opened up stuff like public healthcare, renewable energy, expanding welfare, and various working class demands for discussion, claimed to support these things, and then never passed them anyways. They don't want to be doing that.

                • Rev [none/use name]
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                  4 years ago

                  That's the great thing about it - it doesn't yet exist. So the state can shovel more corporate welfare to companies (and most of the time it's the very same oil and gas companies, as well as the MIC corporations) under the pretext that they'll now finally roll up their sleeves and start developing fusion for real. Even if takes decades and nothing comes out of it, no one will remember. The same with denouncing regime change ops and wars - it makes for a nice populist sound bite while the alphabet agencies can keep doing their stuff in the shadows. Remember Obama? So many promises - all of them broken. Did it make the situation any more dangerous for the status quo? Nope, they're raking in record profits, capitalist realism rules the day even stronger than before and the wealth disparity just keeps soaring. You have too much faith in the general public getting outraged at hypocrisy and lies. Even in past situations where people had it good and had their material comfort yanked out from them overnight the vast majority just bowed their heads to the new bleak reality.

                  • Pezevenk [he/him]
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                    4 years ago

                    But Obama can promise these things because the republicans exist, and then tm they can just say "we wanted these things, but the republicans didn't". The republicans can't do that because the Democrats already supposedly want them.

    • RNAi [he/him]
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      4 years ago

      If I was a DC ghoul I would pay him a shitton of money to do just that in order to shit on any progressive trying to pass any healthcare reform or GND.

      I bet Hillary will do exactly this.

    • AbolishAmerikkka [he/him]
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      4 years ago

      Why are people thinking him not being politically correct would mean he would go left?

      He means he wants to say the N*word on stage.

        • AbolishAmerikkka [he/him]
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          4 years ago

          The premise of that joke is that there are people who move left because they are sick of political correctness and i don’t ever see that happen.

            • AbolishAmerikkka [he/him]
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              4 years ago

              I think he is saying that if he is re-elected he will “stop being so politically correct.” Unless i am misinterpreting it...

              It plays to his base. Like “I’m going to take the gloves off” to rile up his CHUDs who feel under attack by woke culture. As does he.

  • coppercrystalz [he/him]
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    4 years ago

    Where do news rags get these photos of politicians looking solemn against a black background with dramatic lighting on them? It's like there's an infinite supply of them hidden in some back room in the White House, they're everywhere.

  • Lovely_sombrero [he/him]
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    4 years ago

    I like how there isn't even a pretense anymore, Trump can just announce his rebranding. Noone cares LMAO.

    • RNAi [he/him]
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      4 years ago

      and libs will be "oh you! :)"

  • emizeko [they/them]
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    4 years ago

    changing your personality, as easy as pushing a button or wearing a different suit

  • LaughingLion [any, any]
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    4 years ago

    "more and more im hearing about transrights, folks. these trans people, we love our trans people, the best people. we really do love em. and ole sleepy joe he doesnt have the best record with them, you know. misgendering them, identifies as a man, toxic masculinity bigly. everyone knows my pronouns are xe/xem. and more and more people are talking about it."

    • Pezevenk [he/him]
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      4 years ago

      The FAKE NEWS MEDIA keep calling me "he" and refusing to use my preferred pronouns! PRESIDENTIAL HARASSMENT!

    • RNAi [he/him]
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      4 years ago

      " I must say, I was a bad boy [laughter and cheers] I was indeed. But that's what happen with famous people like me, once you become famous, it's hard to drop the mask; you have to act like this to keep up with the job. [sentimental music] And it's hard, you know, at the end of the day you don't really know who you are; and you get so involved in performing for the people that cheer you, that you can really loose it"

      Ellen: "I know it, I totally get it. We are just so divided by the TV and drama but we all have the same values"

      T: "Exactly"

    • RNAi [he/him]
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      4 years ago

      AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

  • Amorphous [any]
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    4 years ago

    hahahahaha what the fuck they're actually starting the process DURING THE FUCKING ELECTION

    liberals do not want to win, and do not believe in anything.

  • CarlTheRedditor [he/him]
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    4 years ago

    Look at his stupid fat fucking face. Just look at it. You could punch him with all your might and it would not hurt you. Like punching into a jar of mayonnaise.

    • RNAi [he/him]
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      4 years ago

      your hands are really small or your jars are too big.

      • CarlTheRedditor [he/him]
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        4 years ago

        Wait y'all don't buy mayo a gallon at a time?

        (I actually hate the stuff and never buy any.)

        • RNAi [he/him]
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          4 years ago

          I love mayonaisse, or at least the recipes we use here, yours looks too white

            • RNAi [he/him]
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              4 years ago

              Erm, our is yellowish because of the eggyolk and oil and lemon, homemade or bought they are yellowish.

              And we buy it in sachets mostly, less usually in jars.

                • RNAi [he/him]
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                  4 years ago

                  I like to add anchovies, or garlic, or oregano, or hot pepper, or sweet paprika, or cumin, or parsley, or black/white/pink/etc pepper, or lemon/orange zest, or more lemon juice, or big etc