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  • Sodium_nitride@lemmygrad.ml
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    7 days ago

    95% of this article is "we need to have a balanced approach to china" without detailing what that means except for some vague platitudes that British politicians can continue being hawkish on china while still somehow increasing trade. Basically summarised by the second last paragraph.

    It should at least be possible to take both a “very strong, robust, even aggressive” approach to national security and espionage while also maintaining trade ties, argues the Tory MP. “China would probably respect us more if we better protected ourselves,” he adds.

    And there is of course tthis garbage about "respect".

    • ShimmeringKoi [comrade/them]
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      7 days ago

      China would probably respect us more if we better protected ourselves,” he adds.

      Telegraph writers have never even had an appetizer from Andre's Steakhouse and do not understand the economy of respect

  • GrouchyGrouse [he/him]
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    7 days ago

    England spent like 300 years trying to tame the Welsh dragon and Wales is like the size of a large dog or a small bear.

    China is too big for a bear or dog based counting system.

  • DragonBallZinn [he/him]
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    7 days ago

    Please….I just want the left to have its own big gamergate moment. From IRL to almost every other site I’m tired of biting my tongue. I’m tired of the dumbest people always having every word they utter treated like gospel because they slather it in 4chan brainrot that stopped being funny almost a decade ago.

    I’m a goddamn communist and I care more about America than it’s so-called “patriots” who keep running it into the ground thanks to their paranoia, and the henpecked liberals that would rather be let into the reactionary’s in-crowd than do the right thing….and end up STILL never getting accepted by the right.

  • miz [any, any]
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    7 days ago

    tame the Chinese dragon

    western media never seems to frame stuff about white European countries with animal mascots. imagine a headline "Why Britain struggles to tame the French cock"

  • miz [any, any]
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    7 days ago

    the UK’s relationship with China has always been complicated

    that's one way to gloss over the Opium Wars, I suppose

  • thethirdgracchi [he/him, they/them]
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    6 days ago

    This is from last year when the UK lost its mind pretending China gave enough of a shit about Britain to "meddle" in its elections, but the point is still relevant. The quote below is from an interview with Victor Gao, former English translator for Deng Xiaoping who now runs a think tank in China.

    First of all, between China and Britain, from the Chinese perspective, Britain is not a rival, it is not competitor, it is not an enemy, it is not an adversary. Britain is just an important country to get along with in peace and in friendship, and for mutual benefit. I think it would be completely misguided for Britain to view China as an enemy or adversary, or competitor.

    What do China and Britain compete with? China is the largest manufacturer of automobiles, competing with Britain? No. China is the largest exporter of EV [electrical vehicle] cars, and will lead the whole world in EV production. Is Britain a competitor? No. China will be the biggest and most important producer and R&D in terms of semi-conductor in no time. Does that mean China competes with Britain? No. China will be the leading nation in AI revolution. Is Britain a competitor? No.

    So I think British government should not overestimate its impact on the global scene and view China as a rival. China is a fact, China is a mega-trend, for Britain to live with and get along with. Let’s make peace, rather than agitate for war.

    Source: https://youtu.be/cLEup9RaR3I?t=26 and https://youtu.be/qRlLVw2u14s?t=694

  • BeamBrain [he/him]
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    7 days ago

    tame the Chinese dragon

    White Man's Burden never ended

    • Thallo [she/her]
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      7 days ago

      Way too much talk about taming the Chinese dragon and not nearly enough talk about slaying the western leviathan

  • CyborgMarx [any, any]
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    7 days ago

    Why won't these bloody orientals lay down and let us enslave them!