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“For every blue-collar Democrat we lose in western Pennsylvania, we will pick up two moderate Republicans in the suburbs in Philadelphia, and you can repeat that in Ohio and Illinois and Wisconsin.” -Chuck Schumer, July 2016
Trump won the primary but somehow there's a limitless supply of moderate Republicans begging to be persuaded to vote for the Democrats... Marvelous things are happening in Chuck Schumer's mind
The main hole in their plan is if they want to grab "moderate" republicans (I'll just assume they mean "guy who religiously votes Republican but not for any articulable reasons.") besides already being a flawed strategy when the pool of non-voters is so huge, is that they absolutely refuse to do anything positive for basically anyone who isn't in the petit bourgeois (or obviously the mega rich capitalists).
Passing what amount to tax credits (as opposed to refunds or just "free") which are heavily means tested... appeals to absolutely fucking no one. Most people don't even understand how it works, for one, (by design, btw) and for those who do we can see "Oh, this is just a way to pretend you did something while not doing anything really and wrapping it all in multiple layers of lies and bullshit. And you wonder why everyone hates you?"
If they want people to think "Wow! That Chuck guy! He helped me!" you just give people a free fucking heat pump for their home. (Referring to that IRA bill). You don't delay it for 3 fucking years either and let states putz around. You pass the bill, once it's signed into law, you get shit going immediately. You don't means test and act annoying with the money as if there is a shortage of fucking monopoly money. You just give people the shit. The guy in the suburbs who voted for Trump will remember "Well, Trump sure owned the libs, but Chuck and his party gave me a free fridge, water heater, heat pump..."
And obviously I'm using these examples to appeal to who Chuck wants to have vote for him. There's a lot of other easy ways to get people to suck off the democrats until they die but all of it requires making an absolute minimum effort to increase people's material conditions. The first party who bothers to do that instead of only focusing on sending another $8B to Israel will lock shit down forever. People celebrated those less-than-crumbs covid checks. Those checks which should've been per person, per month for like two years. But people still were so goddamn happy to get them. You'd think if a party gave half of an ounce of shit about winning... they'd just shove checks up everyone's asses in Aug, Sept, Oct, and you vote in Nov. I guess ol' Chucky just doesn't like winning. He sure loves whining though.
i literally didn't even know about the heat pump thing.
explains why my neighbors suddenly had theirs replaced and their hot water heater recently replaced as well
they are farmers and likely pretty plugged into the federal program sphere. i am not. great advertising, dems
It depends on the state (because stupid country), but you can go to this site and type in your zip code or scroll down and select a state to see what rebates/credits/whatever else are available in your state. It has info about the various incentives/programs, who it targets, when it started/renewed, funding behind it, what is covered and such.
https://www.dsireusa.org/
So if you're getting any major appliances, I'd suggest checking that first or maybe second after your state's relevant department for such things. Probably Department of Energy or something like that.
Spoiler: Most of the shit is credits for small businesses. It's all means tested as well. So if you make more money than most people in your area, you may not qualify for much. If you are relatively poor for the area (or disabled/retired, etc.) you may qualify for all of the stuff. Just gotta read through the fine print to see where any catches might be. They could've made it so every home in the country is qualified for free new, efficient ovens, heat pumps, etc., but that would actually accomplish the goal of reducing reliance on fossil fuels and setting the US up for full conversion to electric only using renewable energy like solar. We can't have that! But still, I try to remind people to take advantage of the crumbs they offered. It's only almost nothing.
Thanks for that site. Need new stove at some point but of course that's not a part of anything in my state.
I just hate it's all tax credits and not actual rebates or discounts.
Some of it will be rebates, just not the bulk of it.
Solar panels are credits. 30% of the total cost of the solar installation* can be claimed as a tax credit. Which could be substantial if you consider spending $20K on solar isn't that hard. Could be much higher. Of course it should be a fucking rebate, but credits make sure to eliminate... disabled and retired people. Great country!
Stuff like ovens/stoves will be rebates.
That website only lists what is available. If you want to know what is planned** then you need to dig around on your state's DoE website (or whatever they call it).
Here is PA's as an example: Link
They even made this site I assume because people (me) kept sending them emails weekly like "Dear Govna', It's been [X] weeks since this bill was signed into law allocating funding for rebates. I need a new oven. Where is my oven, Mr. Shapiro? Thank you."
https://www.pennenergysavers.com/
* not sure if labor cost counts towards credit (we all know it likely doesn't)
** heavy emphasis on planned. Big chance this shit gets scrapped silently by Trump's Suicide Squad of inbreds and rejects
(I still do not have an oven, as you can see from their "plans." My personal conspiracy theory is they are dragging it out (it's been over 2.5 years!) precisely so Trump's inbred crew can find a way to delay it forever or just ignore that it's supposed to happen. It's not like anyone besides me and three other naïve hopefuls are waiting for this. Btw, the governor has been pushing this back by six months at a time for that entire 2.5 years until last year he shoved it ahead one year until early 2025 (hey, what year is it...? Hmm). It just feeds my theory since if they needed a "budget" for the funds, I could cobble some BS together in an afternoon. Ain't no way it took the PA DOE 2.5 years. Now oven prices are up at least whatever inflation has been since 2022-Dec 2024, and since rebates are moronically set a firm dollar amount, not percentage, this entire rebate has been devalued like 20%. We all know that $1000 oven in summer 2022 is at least $1200 now if not more. Thus, my conspiracy theory grows)
Yeah the solar panel and heating are what I was most interested in years ago until pricing it out along with required loans.
Didn't help half the companies pushing the solar setup and installs ended up disappointing those that got it and disappearing
"Won" is an understatememt. He steamrolled them. No one else has any sort of a chance.
Even if that were true, why didn't you use your huge campaign infrastructure to inform them on what you did? That's kinda your job?
Clearly racism and misogyny plays some role in it, but Harris/SomeGuyIForgot was short something like 6 million votes of Biden/Harris. This liberal talking point is one of the most frustrating because it is also exactly what trump says when shit is obviously not perfect.
Even 2012 Obama only lost ~4M votes compared to 2008 Obama. Dems are becoming more and more disillusioned as time goes on, which should be a good thing except in the Burgereich it means they get more fascist because one time a communist corrected them on twitter about some historical fact
I wanted to say Tim Cain but I know that's wrong, but like...it's not really wrong
I think that was the Clinton pick IIRC and this one was someone Walz?
"Yo soy Tim Cain" lives free in my head it's the only reason I remember him
Haven’t heard his name since everyone immediately forgot his existence the nanosecond Trump won
Didn't help that they were trying to shuffle him out even before the election to advertise Liz Cheney instead.
Future Democratic President Liz Cheney with Vice President...uh, one of W's kids?
It was more like 12 million lol. Also imo you'd expect all of the people who were too racist/misogynist to vote for Harris to flip to Trump (how many are going to go to Jill Stein?), and he only gained ~3 million, so that's 9 million people who just stayed home.
Obviously this is cope about how a combination of support for genocide abroad and neoliberal policies at home likely cost them the election.
The initial returns were low, but Harris got 75 million on the final tally out of 152 million final votes vs 2020 when Biden got 81 million votes out of 155 million.
So there was a drop off but it's not as a big as it was initially reported.
Schumer is so out of touch. He's too rich to understand middle class America
hmm maybe if we blame the working class some more they'll come to their senses?
Motherfucker, communication to your constituents is a big part of your fucking job. Even if I were to accept your bullshit blame game, whose fault is it that working families weren't aware of what you were accomplishing? There are probably fewer than 10 Democrats in all of Congress who are good communicators, and the party tends to try to suppress them. But that's not as big a problem as the party insisting on attempting to court conservatives. Instead of swinging right to achieve literally 0% more Republicans than in 2020, maybe try swinging left to court some of the 33.4% of voters who didn't vote at all in 2020, which rose to 36.1% in 2024.
But what the fuck do I know. I'm just a regular working class American who's pissed off at out of touch politicians letting capitalists fuck us all over, not some think tank guru or poli sci staffer. But if you try to run Liz Cheney as a Democrat in 2028, I'm leaving the country before the Vance-Desantis ticket wins the presidency.
Charles E. Schumer proving to be even more of a robotic puppet without a soul or ability to emotionally connect to human beings than his namesake, Charles Entertainment Cheese.
Holy mother of fuck do I hate the leadership of the democratic party.
It’s never the stagnant leadership that sits there governing for personal enrichment and their dumb grudges with each other at fault
If you changed their wardrobe and teleported them to something like pre-revolution France they'd fit right in with a bunch of nobles frittering around Versailles
Maybe both parties should be asking why Luigi is a hero to non- C suite people all over this country and try to fix those structural inequities before more Luigis appear to address them. Sorry Chuck, you guys haven't done shit, and no one believes you ever will. You only get votes because the fascists are even worse and no other party will ever be viable due to your collusion with the fascists.
If everyone in Congress died tomorrow, we wouldn't mourn you.
When we massacre middle easterners, we do that for you you stupid ungrateful pieces of shit
You know how you don't exactly get frustrated with Republicans because they never even pretended to be on your side? Like they're obviously evil but you wouldn't say you're disappointed in them. I think that's where I'm at with Democrats now.
“I’m not mad at the other team for scoring, I’m mad at the guy claiming to be on my team that keeps scoring on our goal and handing the other team the ball”
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