Trying to convince an old friend not to join up to do IT for the army. This is what liberalism/being “apolitical” gets you - someone that is told about SYSTEMIC war crimes and responds “there’s corruption in any industry” (tacit admission of the military industrial complex btw).

“Obviously I don’t condone or support that”.... I just wanna become part of it?

The worst part about being a leftist is seeing people you’ve always liked and respected become part of the system you loathe - or realising they’ve always been part of it, in some cases.

  • Rojo27 [he/him]
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    4 years ago

    I hope he realizes that "being vocal about it" usually means that you end up in the wrong end of a "friendly fire" incident.

  • ssjmarx [he/him]
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    4 years ago

    If you're still wanting to talk him out of it, try this:

    The four years of your life that you're signing away to the state are years you will never get back. Your own career would be much better served by four years' experience in the industry in question than in the army possibly doing a semi-related job, because when you get out what you're going to find is that you're still competing for entry level jobs except now you're the oldest person in the waiting area before your interview and all of your bosses are going to be the same age as you or less and even though you can constantly say "I have x years experience doing y and z" the fact is that your time in the military will offer you next to zero preparation for what working in the private sector is like and you're going to be every bit the Fucking New Guy they treat you as.

    source: when I was a lib I joined the Marine Corps. I'm still a lib, but less of one than I was back then.

    • glimmer_twin [he/him]
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      4 years ago

      Literally, fuck me. The “logic” required to reach this conclusion.

    • HerculePoirot [he/him]
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      4 years ago

      Being politically aware in school was one of the most agonizing periods of my life

  • MineDayOff [none/use name]
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    4 years ago

    The worst part about being a leftist is seeing people you’ve always liked and respected become part of the system you loathe - or realising they’ve always been part of it, in some cases.

    ..... yeah, it sucks bad

    • crispyhexagon [none/use name]
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      4 years ago

      i get it, but neoliberalism and fascist activities do happen of any big imperialism doesnt mean i support or condone anything.

      like, i get it, we all want to not die, but murdering children for the profit of others probably steers too far into being the baddie for most? id hope?

      narrator: it did not.

  • Healthcare_pls [he/him]
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    4 years ago

    Corruption in the mail industry means a package gets stolen, corruption in the military means innocents fucking die!

  • CenkUygurCamp [none/use name]
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    4 years ago

    HE is going to have to witness summary executions or even be forced to do them

    If you’re in the middle of nowhere with only a bunch of psycho’s to rely on, you won’t be ‘vocal’ about it, you’ll listen to them so you don’t die yourself

  • DragonNest_Aidit [they/them,use name]
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    4 years ago

    70% chance of this dude gunning down afghan civilians with their hands up while laughing his ass off, then saying "UwU I was just following orders" with puppy eyes if he ever gets brought to justice.

  • Awoo [she/her]
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    4 years ago

    If you're vocal about it while in the military you'll get fragged. Tell him he's going to get himself killed by being so god damn naive.