Dude was walking up to police with his hand out. They keep killing my people. It's so exhausting.
Edit: He might have a knife. I'm not sure if he does or if police are being scummy police.
Edit: Witnesses said he had a knife so that might just be true.
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Have access to pepper spray
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Have access to tasers
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Have access to batons
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Have the advantage of multiple officers to restrain one person
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Still resort to lethal methods to deal with one person with a knife
On top of being murderous, cowardly little shits, they're fucking incompetent as well. Fucking pathetic, poorly trained, trigger happy brainlets with a free license to murder whom they please. Death to Amerikkka and all its piggies. :acab:
The UK deals with 1000's of knife incidents like this a year and they might kill 2-3 people.
Something is fucked in the US's police training.
Something is fucked in the US’s police training.
Could be the fact that there is hardly any training. Developed countries have 3years+ of training.
I recall Rebecca Long Bailey getting cancelled by Starmer and the press for pointing out that the IDF trains cops in America and brags about it
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you can see something in his right hand at the beginning of the vid, which the woman behind him is trying to take away... but it doesnt really look much like a knife, so idk wtf it is
either way, having a weapon does not give cops the right to murder someone. especially not a "knife"
stab vests are a thing, tasers are a thing, but beyond all that, deescalation is a thing.
ACAB
Those cops knew that if they deescalated, they might get fired for it. ACAB.
yeah but they didnt even need to deescalate to not kill somebody.
like, ive disarmed someone with a knife before. no one got shot or stabbed. just another tuesday in the kitchen and kyle had to be fired.
shits unacceptable
The woman at the beginning of the clip is all the proof you need this could have been deescalated. She literally went up to him and tried to grab the knife or whatever.
If she pulled a gun on him, had him in his sights, and had a systemic reputation of shooting first and asking questions later, something tells me she wouldn't have been able to do approach him so easily. 🤔🤔🤔🤔
cops watching a woman try and fail to disarm a man for at least a full minute with no danger or threat to her person: this man must be shot at least a dozen times!
stab vests are a thing, tasers are a thing,but beyond all that, deescalation is a thing.
While I agree with most of what you said, if someone is coming at me with a knife and I have a gun, I am shooting them. For one, a stab vest is gonna do jackshit when I stab you in the neck and tasers fail a good amount of times since they depend on prodes actually hitting your skin and both have to hit. When in close combat, you are better off just hitting someone on the head with the taser then actually firing.
Maybe it's because of where I grew up and I have seen my fair share of stabbings, having hands cut off and getting gutted, but if you within 3 meters of me with a knife, I ain't gonna be deescalating you and playing nice with you, it's life or death and I ain't taking my chances
for you specifically. if your response to someone near you having a knife is that they should be shot, you have no business being any form of police
yes, clearly i am a suburban brat who does not know what it is like to be stabbed at all.
you are afraid of knives, and apparently poor people.
get over it.
go to the poorest area in your country and try to talk your way out of a mugging.
just amusing how you think im a rich suburbanite, but you talk like one
Dude you are having a fit right now and the desperation with which you accuse someone disagreeing with you of being sheltered is disturbing.
I'm truly sorry you grew up in a situation with lots of violence born out of poverty and have had to deal with lots of trauma. But using that as justification for defaulting to violence in every tense situation... while understandable,...is messed up.
I don't claim to know or understand your situation, but I've been mugged at gun point, etc. too I'm coming from a place of legit critique and not mockery
their immediate jump after being told they speak like a rich suburbanite was to "ebonics" and not to reflect on the fact that theyd just equated being poor with being a violent criminal.
as though we didnt all just watch a man die because the cops did that same bigoted math of black=poor=criminal=imminent deadly threat.
like, i appreciate you trying to be understanding and all, but assuming im sheltered is about the least disgusting thing that was thrown out there.
Yeah there was more disgusting things but I think it's prudent to stand firm against people who try to garner support for reactionary/ racist/ fascist notions by claiming it's endemic to their experience of living in poverty. I see it too much... "calling out to attractive women is just how it is in my neighborhood lol you rich kid scolds wouldn't last a day here."
And the you see even true blue leftists rally around that because (a) the current American online left does trend college-educated white so there's collective guilt and (b) the left purports to value lived experiences as valid in building a world-view
And yeah lived experiences are valid! But when that results in a claim that is reasonable for someone in a extremely powerful and well- equipped organization to use lethal force against someone in a systemically oppressed and brutalized community because of a knife.... no no no no no
fair enough.
i genuinely just discarded that as nonsensical (shouldnt be a cop? well you grew up rich, internetperson!) and didnt consider that it might be convincing as an argument to anyone.
cause... that last bit is where im at
"when that results in claiming use of lethal force against systemically oppressed people is justified; no." to paraphrase
anyways, we're on the same page :rat-salute:
Cops are just trained to shoot. I mean we all just saw that video of that dude throwing burning trash into the cop car on top of the cop and the pigs first reaction was to blindly shoot at the guy.
they murdered him like 3 blocks away from where the MOVE Bombing happened. i can't get over that. policing in this country has so thoroughly fucked up communities for generations.
the MOVE Bombing was older than he was. his mom probably was old enough to see that on TV if not up close in person and then fastforward to today, in the same neighborhood, and the cops kill your son in front of you. what an evil fucking country. the gravity of how fucking evil it is, how completely and abjectly anti-black this country is, from a pure ontological standpoint is too much to bear sometimes. i don't know what else to say. please be safe out there.
That's even more fucked up. Damn. I hate this. Being black in America is the most exhausting thing (well, being indigenous is worse but damn it ain't easy).
Fuck pigs god damnit. Seriously burn every law enforcement building to the ground
A better way to deal with potential knife wielders: https://youtu.be/ZEYbF7XCzAs
So they signaled him to move towards them? And shot him when he did?
This is what cops are trained to do. Here's a video showing exactly what a cop should do in this situation. The pig killed him because he was trained to do so.
The fucked up thing about that video is that if you’re already indoctrinated with the Bacon Spirit™, this makes perfect sense. Like, I found myself kinda nodding and agreeing as they showed the multiple outcomes with the distance, etc. The one illustrated in the film and by that fucking pig really are the best ways to “defend yourself”. If you’re goal is to murder effectively and efficiently, that guy nailed it.
