• hogposting [he/him,comrade/them]
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    Yes, Americans need to be put into reeducation camps. Of course.

    But this is out of touch. This is looking at mainstream political culture -- which broadly classifies everything as right or left -- and trying to impose the classification system of a minority viewpoint without any explanation whatsoever. Not only are you not communicating anything of value, but your failure to grasp their thinking and respond to it makes it easy for them to write you off. A better response would be something like:

    Biden is a liberal. He'll talk about race or the working class in a positive way, but at the end of the day he's beholden to big business. He's fundamentally a capitalist; he likes your boss more than he likes you. He might produce some progress, but it's always a half measure, and it's always late.

    A leftist is someone who recognizes capitalism itself as a problem, and talks about policies that would materially, directly benefit workers. Leftists are talking about universal healthcare free at the point of service while liberals are talking about working with insurance companies to make sure you pay "only" $150/month for poor coverage.

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      Agreed. Just being like „lol ur not a leftist“ doesn‘t do any good and is merely you jerking yourself off over how much more of a real leftist you are, to any outsider you’re just making an ass of yourself.

      You catch more flies with honey, let them call themselves a leftist and then educate them about what that means. They used to be a Trump supporter, clearly they don’t really have political beliefs on their own, just impose your own onto them.

      • hogposting [he/him,comrade/them]
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        They used to be a Trump supporter

        Note also that when someone is moving in the right direction, you want to encourage that, not throw up a roadblock.

    • Leningrab [he/him]
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      Yeah you're right I just kind of angry posted in the heat of the moment without thinking much. Luckily for me there were some more level headed comrades in that thread that bailed my ass out and expanded on what I should have.

      Edit: whoops lol I'm on my phone account, but im OP

  • crispyhexagon [none/use name]
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    behold the fascist to also fascist, but more woke, pipeline

    edit: listen fash, i am the jackboot :dem:

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    v*ush fans enacting anarcho-bidenism (2020)

  • KiaKaha [he/him]
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    This is why you should just describe yourself as a communist or anarchist.

    Not a ‘progressive’. Not a ‘leftist’. Not a ‘democratic socialist’. Not even a ‘socialist’. Communist or anarchist or bust.

    • communistthrowaway69 [none/use name]
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      4 years ago

      Honestly, it's inevitable.

      The word Socialist used to be just as scary. And there are some places with communist parties that are basically just succdems.

      If you're not a revolutionary organization, you will be coopted or destroyed eventually.

    • No_Values [none/use name]
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      Communist or anarchist or bust.

      or both, 'I'm an anarchist communist' never fails to get people's(outside of the left) gears turning, and can actually lead to productive conversations

    • ratfuckingfink [he/him]
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      it’s a double edged sword because people hear communism and think you’re crazy. there’s been so much propaganda, sometimes leftist gets thru easier