I don’t like to see so many political posts in all and so many weird images in comment sections
What in the world have I woken up into...
As an Asian/Taiwanese, I do not understand why Hexbearians feel the need to point out what's racist for us.
The picture of Xi the Pooh is clearly a parody and pointed specifically at Xi and the CCP, and not a general racist insult to Asians. Everyone, and I mean EVERYONE, in East Asia knows that, including the Chinese themselves. We use/refer to it a lot ourselves on our own social media platforms in Taiwan (習維尼, 習: Xi, and Winnie the Pooh: 維尼), and if you mention any of it on Chinese social media Weibo/WeChat, you likely will get banned from the platform.Kind of reminds me of cultural appropriation gone out of hand, where Westerners feel the need to be angry at other Westerners for wearing Japanese Kimonos or Chinese Quipaos. Like, no one here is offended. We don't understand why those people feel the need to be angry for us.
Edit: I just saw a Hexbear comment on another thread posting that China doesn't ban Winnie the Pooh because Disney is able to exist. Well, no shit. It's in the context of Disney. Put that phrase in any other thread on their platform (preferably political) and see what happens, then can you claim that the CCP doesn't ban the word Xi the Pooh.
Watch out, you're Taiwanese so you don't exist to those racism fighters 👍
It might not be racist in your areas, but I’ve absolutely seen a lot of people be racist with it in the US. A lot of are from there, so I’ll admit we have a perspective bias, but when a large majority of the people we seeing spreading it are from that racist, US grown, bloc of posters, it kind of primes a response to it.
As an Asian/Taiwanese, I do not understand why Hexbearians feel the need to point out what's racist for us.
You dont speak for billions of Chinese people. The fact that you chose to refer to Chinese people in the third person speaks to that.
Thank you for telling on yourself and your separatist friends for using racist memes in social media though.
You dont speak for billions of Chinese people.
You don't either. Stop with your self imposed superiority.
You know who does speak for billions of Chinese people though? The guy you're making a racist caricature of.
Saying it's just one person is a thin excuse when it's a head of state
I don't understand why you feel the need to protect a head of state of another country from being parodied either. If you live in China where they teach you to obey the rules of the CCP, thank the CCP and Xi for everything they provide, and basically view Xi as a god, then yeah I can see why. But you live in a Democratic state. The government is supposed to serve YOU, not the other way around. Sure you can show the leader some respect if you want, but it doesn't mean everyone has to either. You don't live in China where you can't even make jokes about their leader.
Again, its a parody of Pooh, which is yellow. It has nothing to do with having yellow skin. If Pooh somehow is white/green/pink, that pic would be white/green/pink. You claim that it's racist against Asians in general, so I'm here to tell you as an Asian that it's not.
I understand your need to reframe my objections to racist caricatures in general as being a defense of someone you're trying to demonize with your racism. But if you weren't being racist to asian people generally when you say it's acceptable to do minstrel show level racism to the right targets, you're certainly being racist towards Chinese people in general right now when you're using this stereotype of them being hive minded and easily brainwashed.
in China where they teach you to obey the rules of the CCP, thank the CCP and Xi for everything they provide, and basically view Xi as a god
Sounds like Christian fundamentalists talking about Arabs.
I understand your need to reframe my objections to racist caricatures in general as being a defense of someone you're trying to demonize with your racism.
Who the fuck am I being racist to? Asians? As an Asian myself?
you're certainly being racist towards Chinese people in general right now when you're using this stereotype of them being hive minded and easily brainwashed.
Nowhere have I said that. Them having that kind of education since a kid is a fact. And you clearly haven't been on Chinese social media to see what bullshit the pinkies say on there.
Sounds like Christian fundamentalists talking about Arabs.
I can link you their textbooks if you want
I've seen a Chinese history textbook for kids in high school and it's just generic history using a Marxist lens and framing the CPC as the current administrative body. They list accomplishments of the party, yeah, but that's because they have accomplishments they can point to.
It's a lot better than how my American school tried to get me to worship slave owners like Thomas Jefferson and Alexander Hamilton.
Them having that kind of education since a kid is a fact.
No it isn't. Prove it. Primary sources.
Americans are not using it in the same context you are talking about.
Racists co-opt things, this one was just easier to do than most
Did you happen to vote for him or did any Chinese person vote for him?
http://www.npc.gov.cn/englishnpc/constitution2019/201911/1f65146fb6104dd3a2793875d19b5b29.shtml
yes
I at least speak for one Chinese person, me. You claim not to be Chinese, so you speak for zero Chinese people.
I can read Chinese, and understand what people say on their social media. So let me ask you then, when you see a picture of Xi depicted as Winnie the Pooh, do you see it as an insult to your leader, or as racism in general? Cause from what I see, the point of "yellow skin" never came up in the conversations in Chinese social media.
Also, the original post claims that the picture is racist towards Asians in general, which includes Taiwan, therefore me. I think I have a right to say that I don't feel insulted by it.
have personally spoken to many Chinese people who think the Pooh meme is racist.
You may think it's not racist against Asians in general but that gives you no right to speak as if your particular social media experiences are representative of the opinions of Chinese people.
Be a running dog for your American imperialist masters if you must but you will never change the fact that they will never accept you as equals and that Taiwan Island belongs to China.
Be a running dog for your American imperialist masters if you must but you will never change the fact that they will never accept you as equals and that Taiwan Island belongs to China.
chinese that just live in taiwan or the native taiwanese yall murdered
嗨，難得可以在 Lemmy 上遇到台灣人。相信我，我懂你的心情。我前幾天也被六熊們搞得很煩。什麼新疆人過得很好、習維尼迷因是種族歧視、台灣是中共領土等巴拉巴拉的。
我家外面風好大，雨也好大，你那邊呢？
嗨 是真的難得在這邊遇到台灣人
我也沒特別加入甚麼亞洲人群哈哈我住北部 這邊風雨現在還好
明天看起來不會有颱風假了😂
東部南部跟離島看起來比較嚴重
希望你那邊安好：）Edit: Someone clearly is salty enough to downvote a comment they didn't read or even bother to translate themselves. FYI, it's about the typhoon weather here in Taiwan. Not even remotely political/on topic. Pathetic.
I also noticed the 1 or 2 people downvoting our comments. Seems like some people just downvote things they don't understand. Pathetic indeed.
No one cares that you're Chinese and like the picture. It's still racist.
Hexbear: why do so many people want to removed with us
Also hexbear: Spams every complaint in other instances with unrelated images
We will convince them to like us by spamming emojis knowing that they will take up the screens of our opponents! That’ll show ‘em
we don't want you to like us, kindly fuck off from the face of this earth
They are so eager to prove themselves the assholes that people accuse them of being, and then they whine and cry about instances defederating from them.
I'm pretty sure the whole thing is a false flag/astroturf to discredit sincere leftist discourse. It seems a lot like a blend of bad leftist parody, and edgy 14-year-olds who fell for it
This comment is the most "reddit liberal seeing real difference of opinion for the first time" thing I have ever seen.
I'm a leftist (not a liberal, actually leftist). It's not a difference in opinion, it's a presentation so outrageously bad it can't be in good faith. It's a middle-school mockery of communists, it just makes us look ridiculous to the people we should be engaging with sincerely.
it's a presentation so outrageously bad it can't be in good faith.
I'm seeing much more outrageously bad presentation from the liberals than from the hexbears. Are they all right wing false flags too?
it just makes us look ridiculous to the people we should be engaging with sincerely.
How about you lot try engaging with us sincerely for once?
Why is it hard to believe or understand that this, right here and now on lemmy, really is most westerners' first time interacting with actual communists? A lot of us dems are pretty open minded and a lot of us want the US to move toward socialism. But most of our exposure to communism has just been "communism bad." So of course we don't understand the fuller spectrum of leftism, because our fascist conservative party has forced everything so far to the right, and our education system is abysmal.
Then we come here and see a bunch of "stupid libs" memes, which from the outside we can't understand because we identify as liberals (leftists). You folks give off the same vibe of how our fascist conservatives treat us (own the libs, kill a dem to save America, etc), and I think thats why people assume or equate you with Nazis. We've never met real communists, and a lot of stuff on the internet is fake. It's entirely understandable.
You cannot say you are open minded while accusing people who disagree with you of being false flag astroterfers.
A lot of us dems are pretty open minded and a lot of us want the US to move toward socialism. But most of our exposure to communism has just been "communism bad." So of course we don't understand the fuller spectrum of leftism, because our fascist conservative party has forced everything so far to the right, and our education system is abysmal.
Why are you telling me this though; you've already written me off as a 'false flag/astroturf to discredit sincere leftist discourse.' If that's the case, what does explaining this to me accomplish?
Then we come here and see a bunch of "stupid libs" memes
How about this, the amount of bile we get from liberals is enormous, and we're tired of being expecting to respond with perfect manners when we know from experience that 90% of the people talking to us are doing so in bad faith and will spit any sincere effort on our parts back in our face.
You folks give off the same vibe of how our fascist conservatives treat us (own the libs, kill a dem to save America, etc), and I think thats why people assume or equate you with Nazis.
No offense, but if Nazism is just about 'vibes' to someone, then I don't think it is within my power to deprogram them, so why would I try.
It's entirely understandable.
The vast majority of liberals I interact with on the internet are venomous and hateful to me, that doesn't mean I assume they're all right wing false flags.
I think you may have confused me with the other poster. I don't think you are astroturfers. I'm saying I can see how other westerners would make that mistake - they're just not aware that real communists exist. We should be better informed, but we're not. Sorry.
I don't even "disagree" with communism personally, it's just that's it's largely impossible in the US. I'm willing to have discussions about it, but I also think compromise is important for any ideology. And communism seems to not want any compromise, which makes it hard to have a discussion. I could be wrong about that, though.
As for the vibes... I do think this is valid and I'll explain why. Most theories sound good on paper. Even our conservative fiscal policies sound reasonable in theory. But when you hang out with the conservatives who support these theories, you find out they don't actually care about the theory, they're just hiding their hateful culture war stuff behind the fiscal policy and saying "watch what we say, not what we do." So studying communist theory is all well and good, but what I'm really interested in is getting to know actual people who stand behind the theory.
I can't remember who said it (it might have actually been Stalin) but the "works in theory but not in practice" idiom is bad and should be abandoned. Political theory is for the purpose of practice. If it fundamentally does not practically work, then the problem is with the theory. If it isn't fundamentally broken, then you can't speak in such generalizations about it.
Conservatism is vile when you drill down into what they are saying and don't just let them wax poetic about pastoral bullshit and wealth. You don't even need to look at the real world, you can get their hate from the theory once they start talking about the poor. Marxism in no way resembles this.
This is the most "American that doesn't understand the liberal is only considered left in the US" comment I have ever seen
Thinking people who disagree with you politically are bots or paid posters isn’t a healthy mindset to have.
I think they're bots because I nearly exactly agree with them politically. They're almost exactly my beliefs, but with the most annoying, self-righteous, groupthink presentation possible. That's why I think they're a false flag smear campaign to discredit actual leftists.
Consider the self-flattery of assuming a community that existed in isolation for three years just to eventually make you look bad when they became federated again.
Maybe there is a real disagreement instead?
"They have what even I hold to be the correct beliefs, but they annoy me, therefore they are feds."
That's a tad myopic, don't you think?
I'm literally in an org irl and I don't want to be federated with any of you
Then don't come here? You don't have to browse by 'All' you know
Sounds like r/chapotraphouse in a nutshell.
Also, I think TheDude was underselling why they were originally banned on Reddit. They were the left-wing version of r/TheDonald. The reason he listed was just the excuse Reddit used to justify kicking them off the platform
what the fuck does that even mean, "left wing version of /r/TheDonald"
like the donald but believing the exact opposite things?
like the donald but believing the exact opposite things?
Yes. I don't get how you're confused by that
that's stupid, then, why would you bother to make a comment like that. Who gives a shit?
No. I had an account when the instance was first set up, but I got banned for getting into an argument with a power-user. I wouldn't say it's always been like this, but this is definitely what it's like normally.
We mutated out of a band of subreddit refugees from r/ChapoTrapHouse, but I feel like the current community doesn't fully live up to what it used to be.
I think it was, by its nature, susceptible to compromise as described above, which has been capitalized upon. Whatever it was, or pretends to be, has pretty clearly been manipulated into a deliberately obnoxious parody that, functionally, obstructs left unity and overwhelmingly benefits neolibs.
"People" can engage in civil discourse to discuss those beliefs. That's not what I'm seeing, what I'm seeing is immediate strawmanning, insults, and overall cartoonish disrespect. That's not someone with a different belief, that's someone presenting the most obnoxious possible parody of someone with that belief.
What's funny is those beliefs aren't even that different, I'm pretty far left. This is just hivemind soundbite nonsense.
"People" can engage in civil discourse to discuss those beliefs
They can, but it's a two way street.
That's not what I'm seeing
That's because you aren't doing that yourself.
what I'm seeing is immediate strawmanning, insults, and overall cartoonish disrespect.
And that's exactly what I'm seeing from you and other shitjustworks users.
That's not someone with a different belief, that's someone presenting the most obnoxious possible parody of someone with that belief.
So should I take it that all the people doing a perfect impression of an obnoxious, arrogant, disrespectful lib (like yourself), are actually secretly right wing trolls?
Benefitting neolibs is when you're vocally against their highly profitable war in Ukraine, and left unity is when you vote blue to send cluster bombs to nazis.
This exactly. I swear the entire point is to discredit and divide. The FBI couldn't do a better job if they tried. What I've been finding really interesting is the stress they put on being "anti-racist, anti-homophobic, anti-transphobic, anti-fascist, etc". If you were really those things you would most definitely not need to shoehorn that into EVERY SINGLE COMMENT. "hey it's a nice day outside, I'm anti-racist anti homophobic anti trans anti fascist btw" Mind you on reddit when chapotraphouse was popular there were a lot of them talking about how they HATE identity politics and basically dismissing anything to do with race. So the pronouns in the names, the constant non sequitors about how they're actually "more anti-racist and anti-homophobic" than you, etc. It feels like it might just be really deep irony and they're just memeing it.
What if they tried to convince liberals that any serious leftists was actually a right wing false flag? That seems to be working pretty well for them.
I mistakenly assumed that they would be more similar to chapotraphouse, but now I see that the 3 year exile has stripped away many of the reasonable people. I still hope some of these users will snap out of it and realize they are acting obnoxiously and unproductively, but the chances of that happening seem slim at this point.
CTH was aggressively leftist but it was actually funny and self aware. Hexbear seems to have forgotten how to interact with ordinary people.
I mean, I like aggressively leftist and most of lemmy that I've experienced feels that way. This hexbear shit feels like anti-leftist agitation though. It fucking stinks of feds. If not at the beginning, they're certainly there now
You think feds want you to support socialist countries and point out their achievements?You're delusional.
Say hi to your FBI handler for me.
and basically dismissing anything to do with race.
Show me
Anyway, the rest of your post is basically a deranged imagining trying to cope with leftists whose attitudes are different than you are accustomed to.
This is the exact type of thing I'm talking about. If you're not a fed you're doing terrific for them for free
Because I don't believe things without evidence and don't like wacky conspiracy theories?
hexbears are abrasive because we expect most liberals to be venomous and dismissive toward us and not listen to anything we say, even if we operate in good faith. so instead of wasting a lot of energy on a response that will be thrown back at us like dogshit, we're flippant and cursory. for my part, I actually still respond in good faith most of the time, but I pick my battles.
Hexbear: why do so many people want to removed with us
Where did you get this idea from? We know damn well why: you're a bunch of coddled libs who are used to the reddit admins protecting you from seeing any views outside the USA overton windows, and you're now freaking out at seeing real difference of opinion.
I'm well aware how fucked up the US is. It created al-qaeda. Hell, this is some crazy secret knowledge you can't learn anywhere, it's on Wikipedia.
Also a hot take, I don't like the war in Ukraine. I don't think it should be happening and I wish it would end because I think war fucking sucks.
Believe it or not, the world is a complex place filled with a lot of countries that do lots of things, both good and bad, and it's not cool or edgy to just say the US is bad and [insert other country here] is good. Hell, you realize one of the most influential forces in the Chinese government (and a huge influence in the west) is Tencent, a massive profit-focused cooperation. That ain't communist.
how dare we be obnoxious to the virulent homophobes and transphobes that have been coming out of the woodwork
Was I being homophobic with this post? Because they have been being obnoxious here, posting emojis that cover the screen and calling me a shithead
I just realized your the one who called me a shithead in the first place. Way to be a hypocrite
I’m talking about this comment they made where they called me a shithead
Your sad gaslighting attempts only underlines the problematic behaviour of hexbear users.
I interpreted someone saying “shitheads from here” in a comment to my post as being directed mostly to me but I can see how that might be wrong
Sure, but they also respond to the slightest deviation from their exact opinions with ridicule too.
I disagree with hexbears all the time because I'm one of the resident Anarchists and they still love me :)
What's hypocritical? You are complaining about all the "political posts" lately and I'm complaining about all the transphobia and racism since we federated
You claim that you only called homophobes out and also called me a shithead for asking how to not see a specific instance.
I just said that "shitheads from there keep showing up in my feed", I guess that was indirectly calling you a shithead, but I don't regret it.
I didn't say we "only call out homophobes", we call out racists and transphobes too, and I was speaking broadly about experiences since federating, but it's only a matter of time before it crops up there too.
Just block and ignore these trolls. They want interaction. They're obviously 15 years old.
That's just been my experience since we whitelisted this shithole
Accusing people of random blatantly untrue things is exactly part of what makes you obnoxious.
a large amount of your userbase has comments removed for some form of bigotry, mostly transphobia
edi:t I literally had to ban two of your guys for posting transphobia on our trans server in the last hour, fuck you guys
It's funny how it's always the same tactic used. Just say you call hypocrisy out and you are golden.
Show you the evidence of what?
And finally, the famous call out of me not posting enough to your taste. And if I want to post once a year, so what? Are you gonna report me to the hexbear police?
You already said you don't care to look at evidence, and can check out modlogs to see the shit we seeing coming from your instance. You're complaining about us being rude, we're complaining about all the transphobes you apparently are cool with hanging out with.
I love that you all default to bad faith arguments. It's so predictable.
The modlog is literally full of this shit, 'bad faith' my ass
You are the one coming to this thread in another instance hurling abuse at participants. Noone cares about your irrelevant modlogs, it is about what you guys are doing outside of your little safespace.
Oh not calling people shitheads, how will you ever recover.
The reason I referred to the modlog is because I'm annoyed by people from your shitty instance showing up in our threads and I can't wait for us to un-whitelist you
Mao was objectively correct, you're the one licking boot for landlords shithead
Yeah I'm in the US, it's a fucking shithole, I don't need to read burger opinions online too
not even sure what you're trying to say here, when did I say I was leaving? I certainly don't have the money for that, you people are so fucking divorced from reality
There hasn't been any homophobia or transphobia in this thread from what I've seen, yet here you are being obnoxious and antagonistic.
It's been showing up in other threads, like getting your shitty users banned for rolling up with transphobia in our no bigots space
Yooo we got them making memes about us, for free and everything
Don't listen to hexbear users when they say they "defend themselves" from homophobia and transphobia. One user thought the admin of Blahaj.zone was being transphobic for not allowing politics in every community. Hexbear users will literally just lie about the repamant amount of homophobia and transphobia to justify their existence here.
Going to be real, that’s not what happened. They had a mod in a large community there, that was a chaser, and that was misgendering people. They wouldn’t remove them, so we left. We’ve got a large amount of trans people on our instance and mod team, so we didn’t want to be exposed to that.
You genuinely don't understand the issues at all.
Feel free to parrot your army of derpy Lemmy.world bros
I love the idea of ditching Reddit, a site owned by a for-profit corporation and run by unaccountable admins, for a decentralized alternative where people have more choice and power over their own content...
...but why do people have to make it so political?
You should ask your fellow hexbear comrades why they turn everything to politics and Chinese/Russian propaganda 🤷 Heck the main community on your side of the verse is basically Shit Reddit Says with an alt-left political twist!
Not my fault you're the equivalent of the alt-right but on the left side and you give actual socialists a bad rep 🤷
What do we have in common with the alt-right, besides liking guns?
Everywhere that communism and fascism have come into contact, they have instantly been in violent opposition to each other.
I'm not sure what you're talking about when you say "actual socialists". What is your model of socialism? What are some "actual socialists" and how do they differ from the people Hexbear celebrates?
Words mean nothing to liberals whenever it's convenient. Sometimes words go from having meaning to none in the same sentence.
What do we have in common with the alt-right
Your pathological lying and your obnoxious childish behaviour. In fact a more relevant question would be what you have in common with the left at all, because I can't see a single thing.
Your pathological lying and your obnoxious childish behaviour.
every side in history says this about the other side
Feel free to dig through my post history. Where have I lied? Where have I not been interacting in good faith?
I've been an activist for almost a decade; I organize IRL with 4 different anarchist groups of various stripes and 1 demsoc group. I don't know what bar you're trying to set for "leftist" but I'm pretty sure I meet it.
You accuse us of childish behavior as you fling unfounded accusations of lying at us without any kind of follow up or justification.
the equivalent of the alt-right but on the left side
"Why can't we kill half the trans!"
- a nuanced centrist.
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"alt left" you are a clown. Remove the worms from your brain
I mean, stop acting like the left side version of the alt-right and I'll stop calling you that... Even just the second part of your reply there, that's exactly the kind of shit that the MAGA/anti-Vax crowd says to fight people they disagree with, word for word!
Calling things you don't like Chinese/Russian propaganda is exactly what neoliberals say, word for word, and has the benefit of actually having a substantial political connection instead of just being a popular metaphor.
I moved here because they took away Apollo and I really liked Apollo. It wasn’t a political decision
They prevented a service through which the users would use it, and the users had no say in it, and ended up having less functionality? Maybe it's a problem when users can't have self-determination. I'm glad there's something that could be done about that.
It's just a question of how we relate to and use online resources, and who has the power over online communities. That's not political at all... or is it?
Everything is political. Nobody wants to talk to you about socialism.
"look mom, my troll brigade instance is brigading again!!!"
dumbfuck
https://imgur.com/nbmUeQf
We aren't, you just don't understand how federation works.
I understand that people see posts from other instances, I don’t understand why people click on posts from other instance’s support pages. Why not scroll past
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The name of our instance is literally in this post's title what do you expect
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This comm is called "main" and the sidebar says it is the "Home of the sh.itjust.works instance." How is anyone supposed to know this is a "support" comm?
Well that’s normally what the “main” community for any instance would be, announcements and support posts. But I understand if that isn’t really clear
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I do scroll past hexbear posts but I would rather just not see them which is why I asked
That's all fine and good. There are likely dozens of well mannered users on both sides of the federation fence. It's just the few arseholes also on both sides making it hell for everyone. I don't see why we can't just sub to the coms we like and be done with it. But lemmy keeps showing the weirdest shit and the knee-jerk reaction is to comment on it.
Funny how we didn't have any asshole issues since we defederated from EH and we suddenly have an asshole issue now that your instance whitelisted us...
It's largely the active sort imo. It's night and day since we reverted from our custom algorithm.
Well, you can see this conversation is in a community that has nothing to do with your instance and clearly with the question being asked your reaction should be "Oh, I shouldn't bother them if that's how they feel." but you just can't resist the temptation to stir some more shit and you don't even realize that you're just proving OP right.
there are other sjw guys who keep walking into our personal shit, then saying some of the most terrible stuff i've ever heard. Not on good terms right now.
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Why would you invoke the name like this
Reddit refugees on lemmy: it's nice to be on a site that doesn't have lots of power hungry mods arbitrarily banning people
Also reddit refugees on lemmy: BAN ALL THE INSTANCES THAT I DONT AGREE WITH POLITICALLY
People don’t want to block hexbear because they disagree with them, they want to block that instance because they often act like they’ve got the social skills of a neglected 5-year-old on meth. Further, because that’s who they’ve surrounded themselves with they have convinced themselves it’s normal or even appreciated.
It's really weird to just make shit up, ascribe it to entire group of people, and then just say it like it is fact. Odd behavior.
Different opinions are scary aren't they? Don't worry you can hide under the bed. Fortunately, the world will change around you anyways.
Oh please, hexbear users are no ruder than any other instance to people they disagree with, it's just that you reddit refugees are used to being able to be as toxic as you like to communists without pushback, and now that you're on a level footing you can't take it.
"Hexbears aren't rude!"
You literally just posted your weirdly fetishized pooping pig two times in a row before this comment.But I guess the cognitive dissonance comes with being a china apologist.
Hexbears aren't rude!"
Not what I said. But I guess that kind of dishonesty comes with being a nazi apologist.
To ease your easily startled mind, even if I consider the toxicity of users from other instances, your spam easily tops that.
That's because you're not on the receiving end of toxicity and spam from other instances, because you don't disagree with their politics. That and because Hexbear is a big instance compared to most.
I disagree to defederate from them, but you made a beatiful argument for it.
If the most beautiful argument is "how dare those people I'm vomiting bile at insult me back!" You should probably find a better argument.
Have you not seen the thousand posts calling us fascists or some equivalent?
In Japan, there’s a competition known as the Kezuroukai Planing Competition. It’s a challenge for experienced woodworkers to see who can plane the thinnest contiguous piece of wood using a type of hand plane known as a kanna. The thinnest piece I last heard of was around 3 microns.
I only mentioned this because it sounds like your skin might beat the record if people calling out the bad behavior of others on your instance immediately gets you this riled up.
I'm talking about what is true or false, not what is right or wrong.
Also, calling someone a troll or an idiot vs calling them a fascist are two extremely different things and I very intentionally meant the latter
Oh, like when hexbears call for deaths of property owners or “libs”, is that one of those different things too?
Not property owners, property hoarders. Owning a home is fine, owning many homes to exploit the monopolistic nature of renting housing is antisocial behavior and must be stopped. If someone decides that their right to exploit those poorer than them is worth defending with their life, they made their choice.
If you can't tell the difference between that and believing in antisemitic conspiracy theories and racial mythology, I am afraid the help you need is far beyond my capabilities.
You’re all over the place It’s like you heard the pigeon chess analogy and thought the pigeon was the hero of the story.
I don't understand why blocking (or "defederating") instances is such a core part of the design of lemmy but not actually supported on a per-user basis.
It will be a much smaller thing once user based instance blocking is available
Hey is there a way to block sh.itjust.works? shitheads from there keep showing up in my feed
And you further prove my point. Keep digging yourself a deeper hole, I'm here all day
One of your friends told me they would love to kill me. You guys are just such a welcoming bunch.
I literally just had someone tell me they wanted to kill me too, it goes both ways.
Then why are you here? Fuck off to your corner of hexbear and leave the rest of us "contemptible" people alone
corner? there are more of us than you. Fuck off to your little shit instances
We were here first and we will not stop until you Ledditor losers all fuck off back to Reddit where you belong.
We were here first
Ah, so there is only room for you on all of lemmy then? That is why you behave in this childish and obnoxious way when others have the gall to simply exist in lemmy.
Yeah I think it's about time to get that feature. As a user I have preferences that don't necessarily match with the defederation policies of any instance and I would very much like to choose for myself which instances I want to see.
In my case: I'm not interested in polarising, divisive, toxic content and I really don't care if it's coming from the left or from the right. But it seems to me that I have to choose a side, because some instances are blocking the right wing extremism and some blocking the stuff to the left, but not both.
Reading subscribed communities only is not an option, because then I will miss out on new stuff. And blocking all these awful communities in "all" by hand is too much work.
tl;dr not being able to block instances as a user is giving me a bad Lemmy experience
Theres no way yet, suposedly the devs are planing to give that option in the future.
Right now im just not loging into lemmy as much as before, the ambience became way more toxic than the first 2 or 3 months i started using it, and i believe its beacause of hexbearians. Lots of bad takes (pariculary genocide apologism) have been thriving on lemmy since they refederated, whuch was ussually trashed before, so i say they are behind that. And when they have more sane takes, they screw them up by telling you to go read Mao, seriously, Mr "Best politics are the ones that come from a barrel of gun" Mao. He was a fucking thug not a great mind of comunism.
I even re-made an account on reddit ffs, and reddit fucking sucks because my comments get ignored into oblivion no mather where i comment, and its not shadowbaning i think.
So my recomendation is try going somewhere else while the option of blocking instances becomes availabe or touch some grass, although grass sucks since it doesnt fight back when asked about politics and it becomes really old very quickly.
Half of all is hexbear posts for me now and I don’t like those posts very much
I guess you can unsubscribe from hexbear communities. And choose to see only the communities you are subscribed to. Idk how SJW works.
They can also block specific comms. It’s how I stopped the AI art posts from filling up my All feed.
