• kleeon [he/him, he/him]
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    1 year ago

    15-minute cities is such an obviously good idea that the only way to argue against it is to come up with these nonsensical paranoid fantasies

    • Thordros [he/him, comrade/them]
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      1 year ago

      Literally 1983 and Super mario Bros just came out and I really want my duck hunt light gun to work on modern televisions.

      rage-cry

    • SorosFootSoldier [he/him, they/them]
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      1 year ago

      Was just going to say, this shit is all a projection of what they want to do to POC people. Try going into a gated community at night if you're black.

      • SuperZutsuki [they/them, any]
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        1 year ago

        Doesn't even have to be gated. Just any neighborhood with an HOA or 90% of the households are making more than median income

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    • LanyrdSkynrd [comrade/them, any]
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      1 year ago

      I had a libertarian tell me once that we shouldn't have drivers licenses because its against freedom. He said people Iran are more free in this aspect, because "they can just hop in a car and drive at age 13", which I doubt is even true.

    • footfaults [none/use name]
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      1 year ago

      They already do this via license plate readers, both on police vehicles, utility poles, as well as the ones that are used for EZpass/bill by plate toll roads.

      https://www.aclu.org/issues/privacy-technology/you-are-being-tracked

    • 7bicycles [he/him]
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      1 year ago

      This line of thinking is why you occasionally get a libertarian guy who is REALLY into bicycles. It's like a double rainbow

  • YearOfTheCommieDesktop [they/them]
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    1 year ago

    all of life should permanently be inconvenient and dangerous because otherwise the bike-toting commies are going to outlaw going to the less convenient stores that are further away

    • SorosFootSoldier [he/him, they/them]
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      1 year ago

      So cool how the Koch Brother(s) and other right-wing billionaires got us cheering for shit that's actively killing us. From more carbon emissions to ending masking and vaccines for covid.

  • biden [he/him]
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    1 year ago

    Isn’t it more dystopian to be forced to own a car? Mf most Americans are coerced into paying ridiculous amounts of money just to be able to get anywhere!

    “The government wants to trap us in 15 minute zones” I say from my gated suburban neighborhood that I couldn’t survive in if my car broke down or got repossessed because I defaulted on my loan

    • Lerios [hy/hym]
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      1 year ago

      Isn’t it more dystopian to be forced to own a car?

      no, something can't be dystopian if middle class americans already do it, that just means its normal. and coercion is when someone is pointing a gun at you - economic coercion, material conditions? never heard of them.

      neoliberalism has become pure self-replicating ideology, nothing real required

    • biden [he/him]
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      1 year ago

      Also I grew up in a small town where it was over an hour walk or a 20 minute bike ride to the grocery store. I used to bike to school (which took half an hour) and was almost hit a few times. There’s no sidewalks in most the town either

      In my current city, I’m a 2 min walk to the bus stop, a 5 min walk to the grocery store and a 10 min walk to the train station. If I feel like I might be late for something I’ll bring my skateboard and turn 10 minutes into 4. Kinda feels like more freedom to me

    • xj9 [they/them, she/her]
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      1 year ago

      no you see because cars are freedom. how are you supposed to make the 50km trip to the wholesale warehouse without a V8 Annihilator SUV with HAZ MAT suspension? its impossible.

  • Judge_Jury [comrade/them, he/him]
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    1 year ago

    You might think your delusional utopian fantasy of "food near home" sounds cool, but what will you do when they start making you put poop in your hair huh? What about the people without hair? What will they do?

    You fucking tankies never think anything through

  • culpritus [any]
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    1 year ago

    sicko-biker

    whatever pigs!

    I yell as I weave my way past them on my sweet bike

    • Rom [he/him]
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      1 year ago

      Propaganda shat out by oil industry lobbyists after they calculated 15 minute cities would cause their profit growth to drop by 0.1% because people would end up buying less gas because they're walking/biking more and driving less. Naturally frothingfash believe it uncritically just like anything else fascist media tells them to get mad about.

  • RNAi [he/him]
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    1 year ago

    WHAT. WOULD. BE. THE. FUCKING. INCENTIVE. FOR. THAT. hasan-smash

    • FlakesBongler [they/them]
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      1 year ago

      They're absolutely convinced that the government is gunning for them personally

      Would be really nice to just fucking walk five minutes to the store to grab some nice fruit or fresh veggies before dinner everyday, but nooo

      I have to drive 20 minutes to the nearest store with decent produce at an affordable price because freedom or something

  • came_apart_at_Kmart [he/him, comrade/them]
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    1 year ago

    it is legit insane to me how widespread this particular brainworm is. like was it something being broadcast on foxnews? because this shit is legit everywhere and it makes zero sense.

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    • axont [she/her, comrade/them]
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      1 year ago

      it's different sectors of capitalists pitching fits at one another is how I've interpreted it

      Some types of financial ghouls want to make money from real estate or something, so some of them have proposed better urban planning, then some other sector of capitalist ghouls (probably oil or cars or manufacturing or something) have a propaganda war against them

      it's all capitalists fighting each other and we're stuck in it

      • newerAccountWhoDis [they/them]
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        1 year ago

        As far as my observation goes, citizens are a big part of the push for 15 min cities because it would increase their quality of life tenfold. Of course there's always ghouls lurking to make profit, who'll jump on everything they deem profitable, but they aren't the biggest proponents of 15 min cities.

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    1 year ago

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    • sajran@lemmy.ml
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      1 year ago

      My mother too! It sucks.

      Seriously, I hate that she can't stop talking about this and similar bullshit. I'm avoiding conversations with her now because of this and it makes me feel like a bad son.

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  • Lerios [hy/hym]
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    1 year ago

    chuds whenever something good might happen:

    Show

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  • kristina [she/her]
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    1 year ago

    isnt this basically what happens to black people in cities

    • SerLava [he/him]
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      1 year ago

      dystopia is when things happen to white people