• hogposting [he/him,comrade/them]
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    4 years ago

    The people saying "with all due respect, wtf Joe Biden?" are the ones we should be working to radicalize right now.

    • Not_irony [he/him]
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      4 years ago

      We need an effort post of someone finding all the correct takes about, well, every leftist has been making since 2016. Maybe comm or wiki

    • Magjee [any]
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      4 years ago

      You would be hard pressed to see any significant detail on what exactly his platform is

      • Not_irony [he/him]
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        4 years ago

        What part of "listen to the scientist" is vague to you, comrade?

        • Magjee [any]
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          4 years ago

          The part where we find out which scientist

      • ImperativeMandates [none/use name]
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        4 years ago

        Oh they had a website where they used progressive rhetoric, who believes those texts matter hasn't done any politics (with that I mean wielding power and creating a base of power) ever. Even pure parliamentary experience would prove you that.

  • PlantsRcoolToo [any]
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    4 years ago

    Damn I wish someone out there was trying to warn the libs about just this kinda thing

    • OhWell [he/him]
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      4 years ago

      LOL what makes you think libs care? They got the orange man out. That's all they were concerned about. They could be replacing Trump with Hitler and they'd be fine with that.

      • GottaJiBooUrns [they/them]
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        4 years ago

        "And the bad orange man was voted out of Office, thus solving all the problems once and for all."

        "But-"

        "ONCE AND FOR ALL!!!"

  • emizeko [they/them]
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    4 years ago

    why would anyone still have respect for a senile rapist

    • emizeko [they/them]
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      4 years ago

      would like to clarify here that there's nothing inherently disrespectable about senility, it awaits us all. what's disrespectable about it is taking an important job that affects billions of lives while senile

      • crispyhexagon [none/use name]
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        4 years ago

        plus, and im no expert on respectability here, but theres also the whole being a rapist thing. right?

        :billdawg: :dubya: :tromp: :dem:

        oh. i see. :deeper-sadness:

  • happybadger [he/him]
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    4 years ago

    If a liberal ever tells me to vote for harm reduction again, I'm just unloading on them. Whatever ruins their day and makes them never share another political opinion. Fuck any notion of enabling them.

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      4 years ago

      Hi just unloading on them, I'm dad!

  • GlacialTurtle [none/use name]
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    4 years ago

    He was Biden campaigns co-chair lmao I tried to point this out to liberals and so many would just bury their head in the sand or do the standard "you're saying he's as bad as Trump????!!!" shit.

    https://readsludge.com/2019/12/16/joe-bidens-campaign-co-chair-is-a-big-oil-and-gas-booster/

    Former Vice President Joe Biden has surrounded himself with people tied to the natural gas industry for his 2020 presidential campaign. His climate adviser, Heather Zichal, is a former board member of natural gas company Cheniere Energy, while one of his fundraisers is a cofounder of natural gas company Western LNG. In addition, the super PAC supporting his candidacy has a former gas lobbyist on its board.

    But there is another Biden campaign figure whose oil and gas industry connections have not been examined: Louisiana Democratic Rep. Cedric Richmond, whom Biden selected in May to serve as his campaign co-chairman.

    Despite representing a low-lying Louisiana district that could be one of the areas in the U.S. most immediately impacted by climate change, Richmond has voted reliably in favor of expanding production and exports of natural gas and oil. His voting record is one of the most fossil fuel industry-friendly of all Democrats in Congress.

    In 2015, Richmond was one of 28 House Democrats to vote in favor of approving construction of the Keystone XL pipeline, which will transport crude oil from Alberta, Canada to the Gulf Coast. Last year, he voted in favor of a bill from Rep. Bill Johnson (R-Ohio) that would undermine the environmental review process for natural gas pipelines by stating that all pipelines that transport 0.14 billion cubic feet per day or less should be immediately approved.

    Richmond, a member of the moderate New Democrat Coalition, has voted in favor of many Republican bills opposed by environmentalists over the years, including Rep. Markwayne Mullin’s (R-Okla.) bill to exempt cross-border pipelines from environmental review, Rep. Joe Barton’s (R-Texas) bill to reverse the crude oil export ban, Rep. Doc Hastings’ (R-Wash.) bill to expand offshore drilling, and Rep. David McKinley’s (R-W.V.) bill to block the Environment Protection Agency from regulating the disposal of toxic coal ash.

    In 2011, Richmond signed a letter from Rep Charles Boustany (R-La.) calling on the Federal Energy Regulatory Commission to expedite approval of the Sabine Pass terminal in Louisiana, a project of Cheniere Energy, the natural gas company where Zichal would become a board member.

    The League of Conservation Voters gave Richmond an environmental rating of just 46% during President Trump’s first two years in office, a lower rating than several Republicans and conservative Democrats such as Texas Rep. Henry Cuellar.

    “This is all deeply concerning,” Sunrise Movement communications director Stephen O’Hanlon told Sludge. “No presidential candidate is going to get taken seriously on climate change if they’re funded by and taking advice from current and former fossil fuel executives, and choosing to take cues from members of Congress who’ve put the interests of oil and gas donors above the health and well-being of their constituents.”

    “Vice President Biden should cut ties with Rep. Richmond,” O’Hanlon said.

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    4 years ago

    But Cedric Richmond is a BLACK MAN. Don't you know that it's racist to question Biden on this? No I will not explain why it's racist, just that Biden is proving to you that he supports diversity and POC!

    • JoesFrackinJack [he/him]
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      4 years ago

      You can already find this type of comment all over these posts now. Just so tired of this, it never endsssss

      • OhWell [he/him]
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        4 years ago

        Get ready for 4 years of this shit. Dems will be calling the entire country racist when Kamala gets destroyed against Tom Cotton, Dan Crenshaw or whatever fascist the GOP props up.

        • JoesFrackinJack [he/him]
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          4 years ago

          oh, absolutely. it's exactly as most of us here assumed it would be. Frankly, i'd be surprised if he actually accomplishes anything for climate besides rejoining the paris climate accord, which is a bourgeois fake as fuck committee that will accomplish virtually nothing, it's just to shut people up. the smooth brains and the ignorant will point to it as an accomplishment, when fossil fuel corporations are partial sponsors and helping them word things in a way to minimize all real action.

          Also the idea that we'll somehow get carbon neutral or even close with how it's setup is an absolute fucking joke

          • OhWell [he/him]
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            4 years ago

            Libs spent the entire summer yelling at us that rejoining the Paris accord would fix climate change.

            They are going to frame climate change as an argument of personal responsibility like they are doing the COVID pandemic. It will be your fault for being too poor to buy an electric car, just like it's people's own fault for being stupid and getting sick.

            4 years of this shit is going to kill that party. They wanted to be the smug, college educated rich people's party, they got their wish. They are now to a point where Republicans can accurately attack them for being out of touch with the everyman and it rings true for people because it is. That is starting to resonate with people a lot more than the ID-POL bullshit that party feeds us by the spoonful.

            • JoesFrackinJack [he/him]
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              4 years ago

              you nailed it, yeah, that's exactly right and how i feel too. i get so sad sometimes, because like, i recognize people legit wanna do something, even the people who haven't taken the time to really just deep dive into how fucked we are, they are at least smart enough to listen to what scientists are saying that we absolutely have to be doing more if we want the next generations to have a habitable place to live all around the world. the MSN and vast majority of politicians though refuse to actually report on some of the biggest examples of climate change happening RIGHT NOW. It's amazing to me how often I wont hear about massive, unusual nature disasters happening somewhere, but can find it on more small, obscure sources, usually catering to that exact thing about climate. So many people legit just don't fucking know how bad it is, and how bad it's getting, it makes me so fucking mad how little media covers huge natural disasters now, let alone explain why exactly it's happening and not just some freak anomaly. The way the new normal gets hyper-normalized so fast also makes me sick.

              Before we know it, the average person is going to repeating some ecofascist talking points because it will hit them like a ton of bricks how hard we've dragged our feet on maintaining a sustainable planet. I already know this is going to happen, because the bourgeois are going to make it happen just like that. I forgot who the CNN anchor was, but someone asked them why they don't cover climate change more and he literally said it kills his ratings. That's it— that's all it comes down to. It's so bad, but I don't see how it will change. Bill gates is talking about population control now, and as much as i hate him, he is pretty well respected and regarded for most people, so they will end up listening to him without a second thought.

    • MerryChristmas [any]
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      4 years ago

      The one good thing about Biden is that they are going to tire this trick out real quick.

  • Keeperofthe7keys [he/him]
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    4 years ago

    It's not like we didn't fucking warn these idiots for 5 years straight or anything.

  • SoyViking [he/him]
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    4 years ago

    Biden: I don't support the green new deal! Centre/left liberals votes for Biden. Biden ignores climate change like all the other neoliberals. Centre/left liberals: :shocked-pikachu:

  • Tripbin [none/use name]
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    4 years ago

    The same dumb ass libs will forget about it and talk about how he was a champion for climate change as Nancy rips up a climate change deal to thunderous liberal applause.