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I haven't even gotten into any real arguments recently, it's pretty obviously from that post.

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    Yes. For a while, reddit has done most of the website suspensions with a bot. A first, the bot checked after you got banned from a subreddit to see if you were evading another ban. Now they have changed it to autoban based on certain words as well. My hunch is the name "Jessica Ashooh" (and any other agent Power Words) triggers a Banhammer as well. Sleuths should keep an eye on people talking about bans for random articles, as they are probably stupid/lazy enough to have the ban accidently trigger if some article gets posted that involves somebody with the same name as an agent or if some agent's name is posted in an unrelated article.

    Also, Chapo itself (along with Citations Needed, TrueAnon, Cum Town, Red Scare, Street Fight, and the Trillbillies) is a CIA operation and part of the reason they nuked the subreddit is that the hosts hate the sub and vice versa.

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      Chapo itself (along with Citations Needed, TrueAnon, Cum Town, Red Scare, Street Fight, and the Trillbillies) is a CIA operation

      tell me more

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        Will's grandpa was a rat/traitor in the 1950s. Brace was in Syria negotiating arms deals with the Kurds ("an American punk/drug addict who discovered Marx in rehab" is a laughably transparent cover story). Tom Sexton worked for the Clinton Foundation. Everyone else is friends they've met/recruited. Most of them use the same agent/manager (EDIT: Charles Reinhardt, former defense analyst for Canada, not James, Nick has let his name slip on Cum Town episodes) who I imagine is kind of like the mission overseer.

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          The Citations Needed guy takes Rockerfeller Foundation, Ford Foundation, and MacArthur foundation money. His media/PR office also has a location in DC. While not connected to the Chapoverse, Robert Evans works for Bellingcat.

          Pretty much every popular podcast has ties to something. Except ol' Dave Anthony. He's just a screaming ball of rage surrounded by spooks.

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            I mean like... Its not enough to judge the content of the shows?

            I don't feel anything particular subversive in the topics of Citations Needed for example. In fact it's very good, very well presented and digestable insight into relevant issues

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                I agree I don’t think this is some grand conspiracy, if not in small part because I don’t want it to be. But one possible reason would be to have some control of opposition and having the power to say “slow down let’s think about this” in an emergency is invaluable if leftist insurgence appears inevitable no matter what you do.

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              Robert Evans is a spook because he works for a place that receives funding from the government. Nima works for a company that gets funding from obviously deep state organizations and works with them. You can't have it both ways.

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                  He advised some federal agents on 4chan and 8chan years ago. Stop playing a game of telephone with the facts.

                  https://www.bellingcat.com/author/robertevans/

                  Can you point to the articles that say how the Soviet Union was bad, China bad, Stalin sucks, and how awesome the military is? Or can you only point to some bad twitter takes that you wouldn't have even seen if some other exasperated poster pointed it out? Have you asked yourself what you're upset about? Evans is 100% a spook because you heard from a guy who quoted a guy who posted about how one time something happened with feds. And you saw a twitter screenshot. But a guy who's VP of a company who works with the Clinton Foundation and other obvious fronts for the deepstate is just a low level coffee boy. Absolute mental gymnastics because a lib anarchist insulted tankies. And anyone who says dumb shit about tankies must be a CIA agent and not just wrong.

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                    I appreciate your dedication to applying consistent standards while everyone projects a position onto you. I think.

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              Nima. He's VP of Spitfire Strategies, which is a PR/media company.

              " Nima is also editor-at-large for Muftah, the digital foreign affairs magazine and a member of the Gulf/2000 Project, an academic forum and online resource service sponsored by the School of International and Public Affairs at Columbia University. He co-hosts Citations Needed, the popular media criticism podcast, and a 2020 Webby Awards Honoree in podcasts: news & politics."

              https://www.spitfirestrategies.com/team/nima-shirazi

              "The Gulf/2000 Project web site "was developed by the Gulf/2000 Project at the School of International and Public Affairs of Columbia University in New York City. It is designed to make available in a single location a wealth of information on the eight countries of the Persian Gulf region--Bahrain, Iran, Iraq, Kuwait, Oman, Qatar, Saudi Arabia, and the United Arab Emirates."

              "The Gulf/2000 Project is sponsored by the School of International and Public Affairs at Columbia University in New York City. Major funding for the project has been provided by the W. Alton Jones Foundation and the Ford Foundation, with additional support from the John D. and Catherine T. MacArthur Foundation, the Rockefeller Foundation, and The Open Society Institute. The project is not associated with any government. "

              https://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php/Gulf/2000_Project

              "Clients for the firm include numerous left-leaning nonprofits. Among these are: the 11th Hour Project, Advance Family Planning, Advancement Project, Alliance for Justice, Amnesty International, the Annie E. Casey Foundation, the Aspen Institute, the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation, the Brookings Institution, Change Center for Health and Gender Equality, Color of Change, Conservation International, the Constitution Project, the David and Lucille Packard Foundation, Environmental Defense Fund, Greenpeace, Human Rights Campaign, Humane Society International, Media Democracy Fund, the National Coalition to Abolish the Death Penalty, National Gay and Lesbian Task Force, Open Society Foundations, Planned Parenthood of Northern New England, Progressive States Network, Sierra Club, the Tides Foundation, United Nations Foundation, and the World Wildlife Fund. [5]"

              https://www.influencewatch.org/for-profit/spitfire-strategies/

              https://www.spitfirestrategies.com/about

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                What a shock, another "woke" figure ends up just being another spook/non-profit ghoul!

                This is why we relentlessly bully and exclude PMCs, folks. No exceptions!

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                  Honestly I don't have anything against CN. I never listened to it. But I've had people on here criticize other podcasts for ties with the deepstate then say CN is good. It took two minutes of googling to find this. Either everyone is a spook or nobody is. I'm not putting up with this "my fav podcast is legit but everyone else is an op" shit. Personally I don't care. Nobody I've listened to has steered me away from the left, or steered me into passivity, or did anything particularly spooky. Other than make money doing their job. If a group of podcasts brings down the leftist project then we deserve it.

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                    I enjoy all of the podcasts I've mentioned and listen to them regularly. They're still spooks.

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          Will’s grandpa was a rat/traitor in the 1950s.

          Unless working with the FBI is hereditary I don't know what the implication of this is.

          Brace was in Syria negotiating arms deals with the Kurds (“an American punk/drug addict who discovered Marx in rehab” is a laughably transparent cover story).

          Maybe? Stranger things have happened.

          Tom Sexton worked for the Clinton Foundation.

          I don't know anything about this guy or Trillbillies tbh, but having worked for the Clinton foundation in the past doesn't mean anything. What did he do for them?

          Everyone else is friends they’ve met/recruited.

          A few vaguely suggestive statements about some people and everyone associated with them is a spook? That dog won't hunt. A professional network of cross promoters doesn't require proposing a government agency's involvement to explain.

          Most of them use the same agent/manager (James something I think, Nick has let his name slip on Cum Town episodes) who I imagine is kind of like the mission overseer.

          I can't find any information about this. What else do you know about it?

          I'm not saying that what you're asserting is impossible and I keep an open mind, but if this is a good summation of the "evidence" then I'm not at all convinced.

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            Unless working with the FBI is hereditary I don’t know what the implication of this is.

            That he has family connections to the Deep State! Yes, a lot of this shit is "hereditary" via nepotism.

            A professional network of cross promoters doesn’t require proposing a government agency’s involvement to explain

            No, but the sudden rise to fame along with the things I mentioned earlier absolutely fucking glows in the dark. The media coverage around Brace in Syria and around Chapo when they launched is extremely suspicious and feels astroturfed

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          will's grandpa was a spy for the soviets wasn't he?

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            And? What is that supposed to demonstrate?

            Dog, who do you think he was negotiating for/representing? The shadow KGB?

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                "Investigated" motherfucker they're not just going to not have a dossier on an extremely famous asset! It would be extremely suspicious if there wasn't a "file" on someone who is literally famous for his undercover CIA work, across the media

                You realize that the YPG is CIA funded, right?

                https://sofrep.com/news/america-can-help-kurds-beat-isis-rojava/

                Published ~6 months before weird Twitter user "PisspigGrandad", a destitute addict in San Francisco, somehow managed to just head on over to a warzone and enlist with a USA backed rebel group...

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      part of the reason they nuked the subreddit is that the hosts hate the sub and vice versa.

      No, it isn't.

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      So what's the op doing?

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        Bryan is just some guy that Menaker knows from Twitter, and they recruited him and Brett.

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            Yes, and it was a complete joke until CIA operative Will Menaker used a guest appearance as an "organic" launch to his own media group.

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                They're part of a general distraction that is the "dirtbag Left". Basically Pied Pipers for young would-be radicals

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                  Bro nothing online matters. Go out in the real world and see how hard actual leftist work is. You get fired if you try to unionize. You get on the list if you try to form a militia. Thats why people dont do anything effective in the real world. We live in an autocratic dictatorship ruled by capital. So the idea that a dumb podcast is responsiblle for this situation is pretty dumb. Yeah the majority of Chapo listeners are dumb DemSuccs. So what? Do you think without them they would have been hardcore Stalinists? Why dont you start your own entertaining podcast that maintains ideological purity and ensures correct application of Marxist thought so that the youth arent corrupted?

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            Yes. They were a bunch of nobodies failing at radio until some CIA spooks on Twitter reached out to them