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    • GVAGUY3 [he/him]
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      I've even seen ML's critique her for this as well. I'm kinda confused at what they want her to do in an institution they say you can't change much in.

        • GVAGUY3 [he/him]
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          I hope they are building a movement to counteract this problem that they are necessarily wrong about.

        • OgdenTO [he/him]
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          Accelerationism isn't a thing, and while it would be great if government were helping its own people, improving the material conditions of people is important.

          You're right in your last bit - don't ignore suffering. The whole point of leftist thought stems from improving conditions for those who need it.

          Additional though - creating mutual aid networks and removing complete dependence on a failed government by creating local networks is a net good. Without these kinds of parallel support networks everyone I dont think there can be resilience for us during a big political change.

        • 420clownpeen [they/them,any]
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          Exactly. I think it's a safe assumption the they're social democrats at best, and if you make it then you must also realize there are severe limits to what they might organize. At that point you can decide to stop paying them mind, or judge them based on the role they have taken on. Personally, I think raising money for aid outside of electoral campaigns is just about the best use of her national profile within those bounds, because not only is she a succdem but she's s succdem in a completely hostile legislative house.

  • GVAGUY3 [he/him]
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    What do these people want AOC to do?

    • noamdeeznutz [none/use name]
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      She should be pressuring Pelosi for stimulus checks every single day and she should withhold her vote on speaker to get a vote for M4A. Who cares if the speaker is Pelosi or McCarthy its the same shit

    • Infamousblt [any]
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      Anything that improves the aesthetics of the Democractic party without actually improving the material conditions of anyone.

  • s0ciety [he/him]
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    Actually, it's bad when elected officials do good things on their own time and how dare AOC

  • CyborgMarx [any, any]
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    Unironically, AOC becoming a full time twitch streamer would be a better use of her time then remaining an isolated representative of a useless and hostile government

    Imagine her raising $200,000 a day, that's serious dough for any nascent left movement, she'd make Hasan look like a blip

    • LoMeinTenants [any]
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      Imagine her raising $200,000 a day

      This is a silly take. She only has her notoriety as a result of the political process, and to project a one-off fundraising project as if it's an everyday replicable thing doesn't square.

    • cum_drinker69 [any]
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      Exactly my thoughts. What do you think the average house rep does? Fucking around and playing video games is objectively a better thing than that.

  • JoesFrackinJack [he/him]
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    Amiee is by far one of the most annoying people on Twitter. Just absolute garbage on everything. She uses a thesaurus on practically every tweet too, over complicates things or twists them in a way it looses all meaning. Also her fans are some of the biggest simps I've ever seen, just the embodiment of "Yasss qweeen." The post left, or whatever the grift is, appeals so heavily to reactionaries, they are the same

  • itsPina [he/him, she/her]M
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    User Reports:

    Shitty takes deserve dunking, sure, but openly bragging about cyberbullying is kinda yikes.

    What do you think the_dunk_tank is for?

  • grilldaddy [she/her]
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    It would be cool if, seeing as AOC is a congresswoman and all, she did more things to help make the American public less reliant on charities to cover their basic needs but I guess that is too much to expect or request. I don't know, seems like a valid criticism to me.

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        Call me unrealistic but I try to envision a future with some semblance of a centralized welfare state because I believe in my heart that it is possible. I also believe it is AOCs responsibility to stay true to the ideals she campaigned on by doing anything in her power to make that happen. Whatever this is is not that. Obviously money that can go towards helping people is good, but I'd be much more excited to see her using her power as a member of congress to exert serious pressure on Pelosi over stimulus checks that impact every single American than raise money in a one-off celebrity popularity contest that does zero to address the systemic issues causing these problems any day.

        • shitstorm [he/him]
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          AOC's influence is basically a tightrope right now. Of course we'd all love to see her go off against Pelosi everyday, but it would turn the already hostile DNC apparatus against her. I'm not making a moral judgement here, I'm stating facts. Should she expend all her political capital on doing what Bernie's doing? If it worked, it might be worth it.

          But she is only one member of Congress. Also this is one of many strategies, look into her mutual aid after COVID struck. But if she turned every elected democrat against her without an alternative funding network, she might realistically lose her next election. Which is the inherent contradiction in bourgeoisie parliamentarianism. You can only do so much working within the system, so I just don't see why raising $200,000 is a bad thing?

          • BreadandRoses76 [he/him,comrade/them]
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            Also isn't that what she does? I feel like I hear about her calling out some racist or two-faced congressman all the time, shes only one woman though you cant expect her to like, personally bring about the conditions for revolution. Even with the power she has been given shes in a pretty hostile environment, tbh I don't think people here fully appreciate the effect just having a person like her in a position of power has on the peoples zeitgeist.

            • shitstorm [he/him]
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              Yeah plenty of people rag on AOC for things Bernie gets a pass for.

    • hogposting [he/him,comrade/them]
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      What, though? As one individual (first-term) representative your power is pretty limited.

      If she's the deciding vote on something and comes down the wrong way, then yeah, criticize the hell out of her for it. But when something passes ovwrwhelmingly and however she votes makes zero difference, what's she supposed to do differently?

      The way to maximize the power of her office given the politics of everyone else in Congress is to push mainstream political discourse left. She seems to be doing a decent job of that.

  • CountryRoads [fae/faer,it/its]
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    The problem with "mutual aid networks" is like any charity, who says what the money is being used for? AOC is extremely suss and a careerist snake.

    Nazi lady is also correct that it is her job to be in Congress, not running a grift online. This is not substantially different from Joe Biden and Kamala asking for money ot fund the government transitiion.

    It's also a disgusting plague how every Left movement inevitably turns into a circular mess of begging/fundraising. You could easily double the size of any movement overnight if you put heavy behavior restrictions on the begging.