Me playing Fallout 3 in 2010: “Haha, this hyperbolic racist redbaiting is just making fun of how xenophobic and paranoid people in the fifties were.”
Me reading a local news comment section in 2020: “oh no, oh no, oh no.”
The thing about getting into bed with racists who hate your people is that eventually your usefulness to them will be exceeded by their hatred of you.
FLG fucked around and is about to find out.
Yeah, I've been noticing people calling out FLG more, but not because they're awful, just because they're Chinese...
What actually is the situation with the Uighurs in China? I don't know what's real and what isn't anymore besides obviously not believing anything Zenz is behind. Anything with reading that can help shed some light?
A decent post on the topic (CW: r*ddit). The meatiest parts:
Approximately 50% of what you hear is outright propaganda, as we know the CIA’s affiliates churn out. We also see CIA assets pushing narratives on Reddit. The next 25% is poorly researched speculation by an evangelical end-timer, and the final 25% is an accurate description of the PRC’s response to far right, religious terrorism and separatism.
First, let’s just establish using safe, American sources that a bunch of Uyghur people went to fight with ISIS in Syria, then returned. Let’s also establish that there have been consistent terrorist attacks with significant casualties and that the CIA and CIA front-groups have funded and stoked Islamic extremism across the world for geopolitical gain.
Now, we need to consider potential responses.
The CPC could give up and surrender Xinjiang to ISIS. This option condemns millions of people to living under a fundamentalist Islamic State, including many non-Muslims and non-extreme Muslims. This option creates a CIA-aligned state on the border, and jeopardises a key part of the Belt and Road initiative, which is designed to connect landlocked countries for development and geopolitical positioning. This option also threatens the CPC’s legitimacy, as keeping China together is a historical signifier of the Mandate of Heaven.
The next option is the American option. Drone strike, black-site, or otherwise liquidate anyone who could be associated with Islamic extremism. Be liberal in doing so. Make children fear blue skies because of drones. When the orphaned young children grow up, do it all again. You can also throw a literal man-made famine in there if you want.
The final option is the Chinese option. Mass surveillance. Use AI to liberally target anyone who may be at risk of radicalisation for re-education. Teach them the lingua franca of China, Mandarin. Pump money into the region for development. When people finish their time in re-education, set them up with state jobs. Keep the surveillance up. Allow and even celebrate local religious customs, but make sure the leaders are on-side with the party...
Could China’s approach be done better? Almost certainly. Is it the most humane response to extremism we’ve seen so far? That’s for you to decide.
Very interesting stuff. Thank you for the link and summary. It's not hard to see why there's so much confusion about this stuff with all the disinformation going around.
I can't wait for pre-war terminal entries in Fallout 5 to read "I hate the Chinese government but I have nothing against the Chinese people, and [comically racist 11-paragraph diatribe]"
Aw jeez, I live near where the crappiest fallout game takes place.
Should I move to the Vegas metro area?
this is brotherhood of steel 2 erasure
it not being an actual game makes it worse. they liquidated black isle and moved people off van buren, the actual fallout 3, for bos2 to not even exist
The latest Fallout game sucks dick way harder than Bros of Steel (which took place in the Midwest). Latest game took place in WV which I live on the border of.
Ah, they fucked up 76 so hard that I can’t even enjoy Fallout Mothman.
Libs be like Little Yangtze shall be decorated with rainbow ribbons
video games and fiction are always 10000x more abstract, convoluted, and literary than they realistically would be
You're probably freaking mostly with bots/sock puppets. I've noticed lots of vote manipulation on certain posts to create the illusion of consensus.
Votes don't actually mean anything on Reddit, just keep posting and even if you're massively down voted, you are probably still getting through to tons of people.
I'm glad I did hivemind shit for like 8 years on my account because I have something like 100k karma so I'm basically invincible unless I really poke the bear.
Weird, I seem to get away with almost anything. I got a 3 day ban from LSC, but that's because a mod for mad at me for saying Nazi lives don't matter and it's good to kill them.
Even better is to scrub your post history (leaving a few innocent posts) and working the "I wanna help out moderating" angle and sabotage from within.
Or at least post things with a sock puppet and prevent them from being removed.
Yeah it's per-subreddit I think. If you have a million karma from a hundred subreddits, you'll still be rate limited in that one subreddit you're -20 in or whatever
