I have never seen so many people praise Trump and Pelosi here. The good news is we're (hopefully) getting paid. The bad is that it's clear we all have a price...
Three Immortan Joes fighting over who gets to pull the lever to let the water dribble down onto the dying filth.
Lol "akkktualy it's neoliberal to think Trump did something good" what are you, every dumb ass blue check on Twitter? Dumb.
lol are you on the reactionary bandwagon thinking Trump's antics aren't part of some orchestrated dance between the two parties?
maybe it's possible to be glad about a particular action on material grounds without doing a bunch of self-flagellating penance for mentally betraying your team, or suddenly becoming a complete dumbass who thinks Trump is doing it for good reasons
suddenly becoming a complete dumbass who thinks Trump is doing it for good reasons
tbf I did see that take
tbf I did see that take
Yes, thank you, that's what I was responding to. It reminded me of election night, where some members here were a little ...too giddy about Trump. It raises an eyebrow.
issuing correction on a previous post of mine, regarding the president. you do not, under any circumstances, "gotta hand it to them"
Isn't the greatest lib move to assume trump has an agenda beyond spite? He's not a part of any greater structure at this point.
Ah yes, Republicans wanted Trump to refuse to sign a deal that was extremely favorable to their interests. It's all a conspiracy to make Trump look good in his final days so he can coup the white house!
Dumb.
The bad is that it’s clear we all have a price…
Nobody should be praising either ghoul. But people are praising Trump for (rightly) blasting Pelosi and the dems for the bullshit $600. $2000 is just as much of a fucking pittance for everyone eight months later, but it's FAR better than $600.
its good when bad people do good things. Us not getting this money won't improve our material conditions, but us getting it might help some people who really needed it. Fuck off
The bad is that it’s clear we all have a price…
:shocked-pikachu:
Seriously, are you surprised that people like getting money? What alternative do you have up your sleeve that you could just smoothly put into play if there was no payout?
The idea of "if things get bad enough people will revolt" is kind of bankrupt. The working class in America (and aligned countries) has been slow-boiling for 40 years; media control is more complete and convincing and engaging; capital has been gaining ground and has armies of the brainwashed to defend it... you're not going to get a revolution that just emerges from the material conditions. You need people to build and fight for what they believe in, and they can contribute more to that if they have more resources.
Narratives of "selling out" imply that without taking the money, people would have the agency to act. But agency doesn't come out of desperation; it comes out of our values, our analysis, and our level of organization.
The idea of “if things get bad enough people will revolt” is kind of bankrupt.
I don't think it's bankrupt, I think it's incomplete. When I see the rising number of mass shootings and suicides and protests and political extremism in America, I think that that stuff 100% signals a revolt - but the problem is that people live their lives as individuals, so they revolt as individuals. Here on the left we should be about making people realize that they're part of a class so that they can revolt as a class.
That neighborhood that kicked police out and blockaded the road to stop their neighbors from getting evicted has the right idea, the CHOP had the right idea, but the problem with those moments is that there was no larger working class movement for them to connect to, so naturally they got besieged and crushed by the bourgeoise state.
I still think this is just a plan to kill the bill and require stopgap spending through the beginning of the Biden presidency. Trump calling for the 2k won't change McConnell's stance at all and if they can occupy the first few months of the Biden presidency threatening to close the federal government then Biden and the Democrats are going to have to bend over for the Senate Republicans even more.
The bad news will roll regardless of what we get. If we're going to get something, 2k pls
I think really they'd rather just pay Trump's "ransom" than deal with a government shutdown.
He's just doing it to make the dems look like idiots by doing more "good" person stuff then they wanted to. Which is fine with me. The dems suck, and should look dumb because they are.
I’m not praising them for doing their fucking jobs that they should have been doing months ago, but at the same time it will be beneficial to millions just to have some money
I'll take your 2k bruh you don't need to soil your bank account with it
