You can’t downvote me even if you wanted to! MY MASTER PLAN IS FINALLY COMPLETE!
Now I will have the most downvoted post in the history of this site FOREVER!
MUAHAHAHAHAHA
I just downbeared your post.
FAQ
What does this mean?
The amount of bears(points) on your post and Chapo.chat account has decreased by one.
Why did you do this?
There are several reasons I may deem a post to be unworthy of positive or neutral bears. These include, but are not limited to:
Rudeness towards other Chapos,
Spreading incorrect information,
Sarcasm not correctly flagged with a /s.
Am I banned from the Chapo.chat?
No - not yet. But you should refrain from making comments like this in the future. Otherwise I will be forced to issue an additional downbears, which may put your posting and commenting privileges in jeopardy.
I don't believe my post deserved a downbear. Can you un-downbear it?
Sure, mistakes happen. But only in exceedingly rare circumstances will I undo a downbear. If you would like to issue an appeal, shoot me a private message explaining what I got wrong. I tend to respond to Chapo PMs within several minutes. Do note, however, that over 99.9% of downbear appeals are rejected, and yours is likely no exception.
How can I prevent this from happening in the future?
Accept the downbear and move on. But learn from this mistake: your behavior will not be tolerated on Chapo.chat. I will continue to issue downbears until you improve your conduct. Remember: Chapo is privilege, not a right.
You mean I can't poopoo out my doodoo ass anymore? :negative:
We had a downvote button? I just clicked on all the cute little bears to turn them all yellow
tbh that kinda sucks what if i wanted to downvote a badtake :cat-confused:
You dunk on them instead!
Responding with PPB is also always a stellar play
but that takes workkkkk
I want to make them feel bad by our sheer numbers :jb-shining:
But this way we can destroy their inbox with coordinated PPB carpet bombing, think about it
Since it's so important to vocalize our critiques instead of just downvoting, let me say that I found your constant posting about downvotes very aggravating and it's more aggravating that you were successful in getting the admins to try this very bad idea
I'm sorry for annoying you, but if it's any consolation I doubt I'm the reason
thanks for telling me though, and sorry again for being annoying o7
This is a better plan than the old plan of banning people by reading the tea leaves of their downvotes.
When you put it that way it seems like we were using witchcraft to ban terfs which I am fine with actually
Positives: Now I won't go into self doubt avalanches (avalanche is not the word I wanted) because I recieved one (1) downvote. Negatives: Now I can't vent my frustration to a bad post with a simple downvote, and will instead feel the need to reply every time, which will increase the likelyhood of my temper issues getting out of control and saying something petty and stupid that I shouldn't and eventually getting banned.
Mixed bag imo.
Self doubt avalanches from a single downvote are great. It has all the weight of my hyperfocused brain's creativity to berate myself for various imagined ways I've messed up or bothered people with all the shame and embarassment of said feelings resulting from a single downvote
I feel you comrade
I also hadn't considered that a lot of people end contentious conversations with a downvote, thanks for pointing that out. I personally really struggle with disengaging (can you tell? lol) and can see that pulling me into aggressive and pointless encounters if I'm not careful
Thank you for your compassion/sympathy/empathy, I never know which if those words is correct, comrade.
I never know either lmao, that's why I just go with wholesome haha. Thanks!
Thank you too, your posts are usually great and ones like this make me feel incredibly seen and valid, and I can't express how important that is to my mental health :heart-sickle:
I also hadn’t considered that a lot of people end contentious conversations with a downvote
Quill, I said exactly this in one of your threads, in a comment you responded to
Damn you sure did! Guess It didn't really click until I heard it the second time. Though I do still stand by the take that we should try to not bring that mindset here
You're not wrong, but part of that is avoiding unnecessary conflict, and insisting that people should always comment if they want to express disagreement is most certainly not the way for me to do that (and I doubt I'm the only one)
Yeah for sure. I'm hopeful it's a cultural change we can all make together, but I'm probably being naive
One downvote? I always just assume there's one person having a bad day.
Yet I can still click ANGERY PURPLE ARROW - it just erases the smug comment I was going to write. Dr. Chapo has thought of everything.
This sucks. People with bad takes will get more visibility if they post more.
That's a fair point, but also haven't the mods been pretty great about instantly shredding chud shit during raids?
But we don't report stuff with downvotes though, I don't see the problem.
Also, I'm 99% sure this is a trial period of a week to see how we all feel about downvotes being gone so don't get too worried
The entire structure of Lemmy assumes the ability to downvote, and that’s why comments are ordered the way they are rather than just chronologically
It is? could you elaborate? I don't see it
I don't appreciate the condescension comrade. There are still upvotes, therefore comments can still be ordered by vote ratio. Pretty sure you know that's what I meant.
So where's the problem
Edit: to elaborate further, this change artificially eliminates negativity. Hiding something doesn’t make it go away, and we shouldn’t force people to pretend to like things they don’t. That’s like being forced to smile as a cashier.
just saw your edit, figured I'd respond sorry if I'm being annoying, it's an interesting discussion
I'd argue this is the strength of removing the downvote, because downvotes can mean anything, but a comment condemning a post for whatever it is to be condemned for is far sharper and more pointed a weapon
It's not combatting liberalism to downvote a liberal post, but to analyze it and shred it apart in front of the audience
It's true it would feed them, however: 1) this is chapo, the land that loves trolling trolls back 2) that loops us back to the mods not being afraid to ban people for trolling, so the hypothetical troll will (probably) still be stopped in around the same amount of time.
Plus its not like downvotes ever dissuade trolls either, and there's not much difference between a post with -3 and a post with no upvotes in the ranking
Hmm, that's a good point.
My question now is, can we solve that problem without putting the downvote back? How?
maybe downvotes still exist but are hidden to everyone but mods, that way they can still spot egregious takes or lack of community support? So I guess, instead of a downvote, it's more of a "I find this sus" button. Like a lesser report button
I'm sure our beautiful devs could figure something out
@ScreamoBMO @Beatnik (if this isn't something either of you know about pls pass it on to the team 🙏)
Ahh, my bad, sorry for jumping to conclusions 😅
I can understand where you're coming from, but I guess I just don't agree that it's a substantial problem
Anyway, thanks for explaining your pov, sorry for getting defensive <3
Counterpoint: stupidpol brigades would previously be able to downvote stuff and now they can't.
Ya but this could opening the community up agenda pushing. Not everybody is immune to bad ideas. Take Assad apologists for instance.
Ya. Assad is pretty bad. Arab Socialist Ba'ath Party are fascist. The issue is that a lot of people are very impressionable. So when you make Assad shitposts it normalizes him.
How are we gonna have struggle sessions without downvotes :rage-cry:
All you need to do is send them a clown emoji instead, its just as gratifying, only slightly more petty, and a lot more irritating for the recipient to get sent 20 messages which are all just a single clown emoji than it is for them to get 20 downbears
I am upvoting this, NOT because I am transphobe, but because I support free speech.
