https://hexbear.net/post/699435
Hey, Lemmy users.
We advocate for the violent death of Nazis here.
Looking for something else?
Then leave.
Killing nazis isn't genocide because "nazi" is neither an ethnicity nor a culture.
But my heritage is about killing slave owners and Nazis
I keep asking about the Nazi symbols in the Ukrainian army and they tell me they are ancient Ukrainian runes, so . . .
Yes, the ancient Waffen SS invented them during the ancient "Great Patriotic War" of which we now know only whispers of legends.
No, you see, Hitler particles are sort of like Midichlorians. The genes of the Westoid simply channel Hitler particles in more efficient manner
It's kind of a meme, but actually from paper by Trotsky
Not every exasperated petty bourgeois could have become Hitler, but a particle of Hitler is lodged in every exasperated petty bourgeois.
My uncle was genocided last week after succumbing to his injuries from a car accident.
Okay guys, I know this might be a little bit of what the kids call a "hot take", but killing Nazis is actually cool, as well as good.
It is also "based" to kill slave owners, too.
Oooh, can we take that literally and light them on fire?
The stories of liberated concentration camp victims burning Nazis alive in crematoria ovens are some of the most heartwarming and wholesome stuff out there
One side wants to perpetuate an eternal war of annihilation.
Another side wants to kill off these fuckers in an act of self-defense
I literally can't tell the difference!!
It really is incredible. I don't hate nazis because of idle reasons. They did everything in their power to earn it.
I literally can't tell the difference!!I am a Nazi sympathizer and I will carry water for Nazis. I will assist Nazis should they come to power. I pretend to be ignorant of the most basic facts in a bad faith attempt to curry pity from members of the gallery.
one makes a conscious decision to become a nazi
one is born as a minority and does not have any choice in the matter
these are literally the exact same thing
the only way this is gonna end is when they declare nazi an ethnicity
i guess there'll be some honesty in that at least...
the joke about stalin ending ukrainian cultural traditions of pogroms but unironically
Help! I'm a descendant of the Kapytyyalizt peoples of the Caucauses and Stalin is genociding my people!
Well, we also apparently have ABABs around (Assigned Bootlicker At Birth)
Credible leftist phrenologists understand there is a subset of the population who are ACAB (Assigned Cop at Birth)
Only Hexbaristas and Gradians would be called "Evil Red Fash Tankies gloryfing violence against Nazis making themselves be just as bad as them"
Hey America, why is killing Islamic terrorists ok, but killing fascists is bad?
Obviously
but I'd love one to say something like "well, these speak English so we can reason with them." and then bring up that guy who grifts about deradicalizing klan members.America delenda est.
Not to mention like actual Christians here who supported(or still do) the "war on terror" by advocating for the mass murder of innocent families in the middle east(totes not a genocide, amirite?). See also: strafing in the Vietnam War.
that guy who grifts about deradicalizing klan members.
Is that just a grift? Can you explain? Id like to believe myself a rehabilitationist so I want to believe radical right wingers can be rehabilitated in ways that arent a bullet to a skull, but if one of the only evidence that deradicalization is possible isnt real... I never researched the topic much though so can you or someone explain?
I don't know if it is truly a grift, i.e. that he is doing it for money, but I do know that libs have used him to say: look, we don't need to hate racists, sexists, homophobes, transphobes, etc. the people that they hate just need to sit down with them and have a conversation and they will magically change. I also remember a person saying that one of his supposed converts was now just affiliated with a different hate group than the Klan, but I can't seem to find that source.
Even if Daryl Davis is legitimate, he has certainly only deradicalized people who were there for the community vs. those who actually have deeply held beliefs that black people are deserving of persecution. Otherwise, there wouldn't be parents who disown their own kids for being gay/trans.
The idea that even the avowed true believer fascists are not redeemable by any means kinda goes against my worldview. Like obviously some are but like, I know ex fascists. Tbf most of them were fascists as kids and grew out of it. And also there was one who was an "ex-fascist" for a long time and had become communist, and then after some pushback against leftover fashy behavior she ended up going back to fascism so that was faith shaking but like.
I've effortposted about how i feel about mass executing Nazis before. Individual violence against nazis who are openly being nazis in the street is another story to me obviously. But I still find it hard to believe that bigotry cant be rehabilitated.
I think I am essentially utilitarian about this. I don't think it is, in general, worth an individual's resources (time, effort, chance of being harmed) to try and rehabilitate a random adherent to hateful ideologies. People less beholden to evil are more attractive targets, and a bullet to a fascist head is a lot quicker.
Likewise though, I don't think it is worth a society's resources to mass execute a large subsection of their population, and so rehabilitation schemes are preferable.
To be honest though, I think most people only fall to fascist beliefs because of the appearance of an open community and the sublimation of their feelings of failure into hatred for some other group. If we ever succeed at crafting a more pro-social society where all have a place and there is a real sense of community, I think the majority of the current fash sympathizers would deradicalize themselves.
Also, on a personal note, I too lost a friend to fascism. He had reactionary views when I first met him, but also seemed to be a deep thinker that wanted a better world. Over time, I thought I had softened many of those views, and had even gotten him to accept the necessity of a universal, not-for-profit healthcare system. However, I could never find the ground to get him to deal with the (honestly pathetic) trauma of having been (supposedly) cheated on by his high school girl friend.
Dude just kept dating girls currently in, or fresh out of, high school. The relationships obviously never worked. Then he started dating a church girl (who was 17 while he was ~30) and they got married when she was like 19. He started telling me of the new found importance of god in his life, how our world was removed (this was before trump so that word held much less YIKES), how porn kept us lonely, the need for nuclear families, etc. I pushed back lightly, but he seemed happy for really the first time.
Then, predictably, they got a divorce as you don't marry a child and think it'll work out. His response: go full hate women MGTOW and fast track the alt-right pipeline to fascism. The last time we talked he was telling me about how helpful he'd found this new guy, Jordan Peterson. I cut ties after he said America's downfall began with women getting the right to vote.
I once considered him like a brother. I now sometimes have nightmares about him killing me or his ex-wife.
Edit: Oh, I had a friend that dated him for a while. She confided in me when we reconnected years later that he had stalked her for years and she had gotten a restraining order and a gun because she was so scared of him. I'd already cut contact at this point, but I also never saw this side of him. We were definitely at our closest while he was also stalking her.
Separate reply: Is there a way to post a reddit link without linking to reddit? Like the nitter link thing for twitter? Because I found the reddit post with links of why I am suspicious of Daryl Davis.
The minute you tolerate ONE neo-Nazi in an internet forum is the minute they all flood in, these motherfuckers talk to each other, they have a siege mentality like you wouldn't believe, and when one of them finds a safe space they all rush in and poison everything, next thing you know some piece of shit is comparing the persecution of mass murderers to genocide
I migrated instances yesterday for this exact reason, lemmy.ml is a bit better than some others like world but it still gets pretty bad
I am normally looking at a few different instances but had to come hexbear to refresh my mind after seeing some maddening takes about protesting on lemmy.ml just a minute ago...
You ever think about how 4chan was this place where you'd spam boxy, do random humor, prank call pizza places, etc because they had this super lax moderation style? Now it's a bastion for white supremacy. It's unusable with pornography and slurs.
Really showed their priorities when the only things modded away from the "anything goes" 4ch!n boards were, like... furry art. All that gore/snuff porn and nazi shit was fine.
https://twitter.com/IamRageSparkle/status/1280891537451343873
Here's the now kind of classic twitter story about a surly bartender bodying a nazi out of his bar.
Do liberals ever clutch pearls when libertarian types talk about throwing communists out of helicopters? Or similar stuff?
They just secretly wish they had the courage to admit that they want to do that as well.
They're too busy clutching pearls because we dare defend the right to bear arms. At this point, it really can't be good for the pearls.
Ah yes, the Nazi race. It's telling that this poster is equating white people with Nazis?
Just jaw dropping seeing someone so brazenly post this, need to whip out my trusty hitler particle detector…
holy shit it just melted in my hand!?!?!?So you want to imprison all murderers? Like the Nazis did with the jews? Ok, fascist
Oh, you think Nazis are bad? Replace Nazi with "Jews and black people" suddenly you seem problematic, bucko
First we put them all in prison, then we abolish the prisons, Vlad Tepes style.
The paradox of intolerance was lost in translation somewhere.
