• Orannis62 [ze/hir]
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    4 years ago

    Ok, so, the NCR sucks, but there's no way it's to the right of the Enclave, and probably not to the right of the USA either. And how are the East Coast Enclave to the left of the Y axis?

    • RamrodBaguette [comrade/them, he/him]
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      4 years ago

      Yeah, NCR is closer to OTL USA now. Pre-War USA in the Fallout universe were more mask-off fascists (it's no coincidence that the Enclave are the direct descendants of the government).

      • Orannis62 [ze/hir]
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        4 years ago

        Oh yeah, that actually would be a decent spot for the east coast BOS. Instead, they have them significantly further down the Y Axis (the Maxson BOS), which doesn't make any sense.

  • FlakesBongler [they/them]
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    4 years ago

    This is a goddamned mess from top to bottom

    Fucking Dead Horses, but no White Legs or Sorrows?

    Boomers weren't inbred, they were specifically avoiding that

    AND HOW ARE YOU GONNA LABEL A PLACE ANYTHING ON A POLITICAL CHART, ESPECIALLY WHEN THERE ARE MULTIPLE FACTIONS WITHIN IT

    • Baron [any]
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      4 years ago

      Boomers are xenophobic jingoists lol

      • FlakesBongler [they/them]
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        4 years ago

        Yeah, but they had enough people to avoid inbreeding when they left their vault.

        And it's also a big reason why they even talk to you once you cross the artillery range since they know they've basically painted themselves into a corner and don't want to die out

        They're not inbred psychopaths, they have an entirely different set of problems

  • 7DeadlyFetishes [he/him,comrade/them]
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    4 years ago

    Now matter how many times people tell me it's a good game, I'll go out of my way to avoid New Vegas at every turn on due to the sole fact their there's an entire generation of right wingers who've somehow been radicalized by this godforsaken glitchy hellhole and someone came out to the conclusion that the fascists are actually good because they have cool armor and robots which is very based and nuke-pilled

    -7DeadlyFetishes

      • EthicalHumanMeat [he/him]
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        4 years ago

        Reminds me of that post from some guy who became a libertarian after playing Bioshock.

          • RamrodBaguette [comrade/them, he/him]
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            4 years ago

            Kinda. They're insanely genocidal and backstabby, and invoke the "mad scientist" and "impractical superweapons" tropes. They also invoke a lot of WWI imagery with their focus on chemical warfare and plague.

          • RandyLahey [he/him]
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            4 years ago

            Nowhere near 1:1, although their elite infantry are called stormvermin. Probably more a take on industrialised society in general

            They're a survival-of-the-fittest society of ratmen with no redeeming features. Hierarchical and authoritarian, they've got enough numbers to easily conquer the world and they have all sorts of hacked together high-tech stuff like nukes and gatling guns and sewn-together monstrosities etc, except they're all so busy constantly trying to stab each other in the back that they can never get anything done. And they're all so completely cowardly that no chud is going to unironically stan them for "martial honour" or anything like that

    • FlakesBongler [they/them]
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      4 years ago

      Which is funny because New Vegas goes out of its way to be like "These guys were bad, but now they're just some lost old folks who just want one last chance to make up for it" and "Yeah, they have power armor and lasers, but they're also starving themselves into an early grave because they're so dn committed to dumb principles"

      Chuds are just bad at doing anything other than surface analysis

    • RamrodBaguette [comrade/them, he/him]
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      4 years ago

      Caesar's Legion may be a society built on slavery and murder, and is unsustainable in the long run but they at least make the Brahmin caravans run on time!

    • sexywheat [none/use name]
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      4 years ago

      it's not just a good game, it is - by far - the best game in the entire series. you're playing yourself by turning your nose up at it just because some larping fascists take kindly to the legion

      • Thatoldhorse [he/him]
        hexagon
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        4 years ago

        No, 7deadlyfetishes is talking about the BoS, and how fascists see liberty prime and instead of looking at what it represents, just see it as “haha big robot say anti-commie stuff haha” and nothing more than that.

  • RandyLahey [he/him]
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    4 years ago

    tag urself im g*mers and their consequences have been a disaster for the human race

  • WittyProfileName [she/her]
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    4 years ago

    I have so many questions.

    How the fuck are the followers of the apocalypse, a faction described in game as anarchists, not on the bottom left?

    The Shi are remnants of a Chinese Communist submarine crew, why are they only centre left?

    Who on this blighted earth thinks that the fucking enclave are further left than the NCR?

    Why is Mr House, a self confessed autocrat only midway up the auth-lib axis?

    The US had concentration camps, why is it further left than the NCR?

    Boomers are an ethnostate why are they centre left in this shit?

    The person that made this played the same Fallout series as me right?

    • WittyProfileName [she/her]
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      4 years ago

      More shit because I am so confused.

      Legion

      Self reliant

      Everyone who has an opinion on the long term fate of the legion, including Caesar, tell you that it's sustained on the spoils of conquest.

      NCR rangers being as far right as the legion despite there being an apparent lack of the usual bigotries present in fallout.

      Putting Ulysses far left but not justifying it with his hatred of cultural appropriation.

      Food rioters are somehow libright with no justification.

      Desert rangers

      Libright

      Hates slavery

      ?