• AdamSandler [he/him]
    hexagon
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    4 years ago

    15 days before, these soldiers gunned down a woman for daring to criticize the election.

    • ExceedsTheCharacterL [none/use name]
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      4 years ago

      Your stupid ass is defending that QAnon Chud? I have never cared less about a police shooting victim in my life. And that wasn’t the National guard idiot

      • AdamSandler [he/him]
        hexagon
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        4 years ago

        Doesn’t make the cops (not the troops, I was wrong about that part) who shot her in cold blood just.

        • johnbrown1917 [he/him]
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          4 years ago

          And it also does not mean they shot her for critizing the election.

          Im not going to lose sleep over this when they far worse to far less deserving poeple

          • AdamSandler [he/him]
            hexagon
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            4 years ago

            Then why else would they have opened fire on an unarmed woman?

            • Huldra [they/them, it/its]
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              4 years ago

              In this situation theres an easy excuse, people in the protest had guns and they could easily assume she had one too and was trying to get in to hurt people.

              Like yeah thats a bog standard excuse but its realistic enough that hammering on this point isnt doing what you think its doing.

              • hogposting [he/him,comrade/them]
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                4 years ago

                There's even a video of this shooting. A bunch of chuds are trying to break through a closed door/window barrier in a hallway, and when they start making some progress you see someone on the other side point a gun and turn her into a good fascist.

            • hexaflexagonbear [he/him]
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              4 years ago

              Why would capitol police fire on people breaking through a barricade when they're protecting the vice president and congress people in the office behind them? I mean come on dude. I'm not saying they're in the right, but it wasn't the "criticism" that got her shot.

          • AdamSandler [he/him]
            hexagon
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            4 years ago

            I feel like everyone is rushing to celebrate a woman’s murder by the pigs when it’s a bad thign

              • AdamSandler [he/him]
                hexagon
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                4 years ago

                Calling the woman who died a fascist as if that was provable

                • Kaputnik [he/him]
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                  4 years ago

                  Yeah the person marching for the proto-fascist president surrounded by racists and bigots ready to overthrow the government and install a right wing dictatorship was a secret lefty

                      • AdamSandler [he/him]
                        hexagon
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                        4 years ago

                        A conservative. I don’t believe conservatism is fascism, although conservatives will ally with fascism when given the chance

                        • itsPina [he/him, she/her]
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                          4 years ago

                          You've said multiple times that you think neoliberalism and fascism are pretty much the same thing but you don't think conservativism is fascist as well? Hard pressed to believe you aren't a wrecker.

                            • itsPina [he/him, she/her]
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                              4 years ago

                              And conservatism isn't fascist how? Especially in a US context. Conservatism in the US is the most neoliberal ideology. If neoliberalism is fascist, as you've said at least twice, how is it that conservatism is different?

                              • AdamSandler [he/him]
                                hexagon
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                                4 years ago

                                Because conservatism at the moment holds at least a color opposition to liberalism

                                • Kaputnik [he/him]
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                                  4 years ago

                                  Is that because you personally dislike liberalism more than anything on the right wing as you've stated before?

                                        • QuillQuote [they/them]
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                                          4 years ago

                                          Yet you think the dems are closer to fash than the GOP?

                                          What even is your worldview?

                                            • QuillQuote [they/them]
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                                              4 years ago

                                              That isn’t a worldview, that’s a cop-out, and a contradictory one at that

                                              • AdamSandler [he/him]
                                                hexagon
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                                                4 years ago

                                                The neoliberal world order is a poison. Bring it crashing to the ground. That’s what Lenin tried doing, and it worked in Russia.

                                                • QuillQuote [they/them]
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                                                  4 years ago

                                                  That isn’t anti establishmentism, that’s Marxist-Leninist Bolshevism, and are you saying Lenin would be saying “oh no the protofash ruling class killed a protofash conservative! The horror!”

                                                  Cause he wouldn’t

                                                  Wait, the protofash that got killed supports the ‘color opposition’ (to the other bourgeoise party) which makes them better and less fascist, I forgot

                                                  • AdamSandler [he/him]
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                                                    4 years ago

                                                    It doesn’t make them less fascist, it makes them usable.

                                                    • QuillQuote [they/them]
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                                                      4 years ago

                                                      More usable than the average lib? Cmon that’s patently absurd

                                                      Go make friends with boogaloo boys if that’s what you wanna do, but it’s ridiculous

                                                        • QuillQuote [they/them]
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                                                          4 years ago

                                                          I don’t know, I haven’t heard that.

                                                          But, uh, Fucking and? What does that have to do with anything lmao

                                                            • QuillQuote [they/them]
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                                                              4 years ago

                                                              It really seems like you have no idea how absurd the stuff you’ve been saying is, I’d fully expect you to do that at this point

                                                              • AdamSandler [he/him]
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                                                                4 years ago

                                                                You really think my paranoid schizo ass is gonna willingly befriend a cop

                                                                • QuillQuote [they/them]
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                                                                  4 years ago

                                                                  Mate I have no clue what to think at this point, truly these takes are held together by scotch tape and spit

                                                                  But maybe it’s a good idea to log off for a bit and reflect, I’m definitely gonna disengage because I don’t want to be coming down on you and stressing you out.

                                    • Kaputnik [he/him]
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                                      4 years ago

                                      Well when this person was shot, a proto-fascist was running America, now a neoliberal is

                                      • AdamSandler [he/him]
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                                        4 years ago

                                        As if trump was anything other than a stupid neocon stooge

                                        • QuillQuote [they/them]
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                                          4 years ago

                                          And what’s your point here? You’re not going anywhere with what you’re saying, you’re just continually backpedaling and getting further and further away from saying something with meaning

                                          • AdamSandler [he/him]
                                            hexagon
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                                            4 years ago

                                            My point is that the people in power are way worse than some trump chud

                                            • Kaputnik [he/him]
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                                              4 years ago

                                              The people in power were the Trump Chuds they're petty bourgeois business owners and cops

                                              • AdamSandler [he/him]
                                                hexagon
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                                                4 years ago

                                                They were in power. Somewhat.

                                                Every mega corporation in the world came out to denounce the trump rioters. (Except My Pillow) I feel like that means that they felt threatened by these riots.

                                                • Kaputnik [he/him]
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                                                  4 years ago

                                                  Even if that's true, we shouldn't be supporting these people. Take a look at the thread stickied at the top today. That's what happens when these people get into power, there are real people who will suffer.

                                                  • AdamSandler [he/him]
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                                                    4 years ago

                                                    Maybe I’m a shitty person, but the fascist movement in America doesn’t really have enough support to get to the stage of the literal Holocaust. It would require total economic collapse for that.

                                                    • Kaputnik [he/him]
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                                                      4 years ago

                                                      I mean they already have people in camps and the majority of Americans have forgotten about it, it would be an easy next step, that was how the holocaust started. And then a fascist government with the American military? The holocaust under fascist America would not be limited to their own country.

                                                        • Kaputnik [he/him]
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                                                          4 years ago

                                                          What does that have to do with what we're talking about? Fascism in Germany was driven by a multitude of different factors but I assume you're going to be reductive and pick one aspect of German society that supports your strange defense for our modern day brownshirts

                                                          • AdamSandler [he/him]
                                                            hexagon
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                                                            4 years ago

                                                            I name a few. Already existing anti semitism mixed with a ruined economy, mixed with a recent humiliation, mixed with the bunker philosophy

                                • hogposting [he/him,comrade/them]
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                                  4 years ago

                                  This is what you get when you take "Democrats are bad too" and contort it into "Democrats are actually worse than Republicans."

                                  Not only does it make zero sense, but it actively stifles the growth of the left because anyone persuadable will look at that and think (correctly) that you don't have a clue.

                        • Kaputnik [he/him]
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                          4 years ago

                          I'm not gonna care when the conservatives/fascists are fighting each other. If anything their infighting is a weakness that the left should exploit, not support one flavour of racism over the other.

    • FloridaBoi [he/him]
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      edit-2
      4 years ago

      no they didn't. that was capitol police and that crowd killed one of theirs too. what is even the point of this post?

      • AdamSandler [he/him]
        hexagon
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        4 years ago

        What was she doing that warranted the death penalty without trial?

        • Moosegender [he/him]
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          4 years ago

          She was trying to kill congressmen and women you fucking far right sleeper agent. Go back to stupidpol or some other fashy space.

          • AdamSandler [he/him]
            hexagon
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            4 years ago

            I’m not going to feel any sympathy towards congresspeople.

      • JayTwo [any]
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        4 years ago

        When I first saw the comment, it was at 15 upbears, and now it's at 8.

        So, nearly half of those upbearing it, realized what he was actually referencing, then went back and unbeared it.

        LAWLZ

    • JayTwo [any]
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      4 years ago

      From now on, I'm gonna use "criticize" as the new "parody" so thank you for that.