I wonder what kind of socialism MLK would have gotten up to that the person who made this image absolutely would have hated.
mlk was anti-communist
We must with positive action seek to remove the conditions of poverty, insecurity and injustice which are the fertile soil in which the seed of communism grows and develops.
edit: nvm, read the context, this seems to be a rhetorical technique of his. pretty damn clever.
edit: nvm, read the context
Yeah, this seems like he's instead dunking on how antidemocratic and shitty the US is. Full speech here
EDIT: it really is very carefully worded. It could be read either be a plea for a socdem US, or (my interpretation) pointing out how badly the US falls short while pointing out how good the VC are, while lamenting, sarcastically, the communists seem so cool, aha, how bad is that?
It is a sad fact that because of comfort, complacency, a morbid fear of communism, and our proneness to adjust to injustice, the Western nations that initiated so much of the revolutionary spirit of the modern world have now become the arch antirevolutionaries. This has driven many to feel that only Marxism has a revolutionary spirit. Therefore, communism is a judgment against our failure to make democracy real and follow through on the revolutions that we initiated. Our only hope today lies in our ability to recapture the revolutionary spirit and go out into a sometimes hostile world declaring eternal hostility to poverty, racism, and militarism.
He was at least very critical of the USSR. He referred to the Hungarian rebels of the 1956 uprising as "freedom fighters" and implied that communism often restricted freedom of religion
If today I lived in a Communist country where certain principles dear to the Christian faith are suppressed, I would openly advocate disobeying that country's antireligious laws.
- Letter from a Birmingham Jail
If anything I'd say he was some sort of social democrat
communism often restricted freedom of religion
Many socialist states have had a spotty record when it comes to freedom of religion tho
Yeah I hate to say it but he's right. Socialist states tend to be rigidly secular, for better or for worse.
not in Latin America or East/Southeast Asia, pretty much just the Warsaw Pact. one of the lessons taken seems to be that it's better to just keep the clergy in line
right, it's a trade off that can produce efficient equitable governance, but usually ends up being incredibly isolating to devout citizens and provides a fertile landscape for radicalization (against socialism). You can also throw in a human rights argument, but I assume we are all familiar with that aspect already. It's important as socialists to look closely at what the attitudes of socialist parties toward religions were in the past, and make improvements where needed. I definitely wouldn't say that I have all the answers myself.
He more or less called himself a social democrat, then in the same line said he didn't care for labels.
What exactly did JFK do to warrant all of this lib fellating again?
lib fellating here. he loathed the cia and wanted to abolish it, and before he died he was working towards ending the cold war. for all the awful shit he’d been involved with, it is very bad and terrible for the world that the cia killed him
"Working on ending the Cold War" in this case actually means "nearly caused nuclear armageddon by suicidally escalating the Cuban missile crisis." JFK was hawkish to an insane degree.
a loot of things changed between the missile crisis and his assassination. i’m not saying he was a good dude and he should go to heaven. i’m saying that he was killed for a reason and the world is worse for it
he wanted to get rid of the CIA because he thought they were idiots for fucking up the bay of pigs
He was for the Civil Rights act, had some nice moments with MLK. Libs know Johnson escalated Vietnam, so they think a JFK with two terms would have avoided "America failing in Vietnam."
Wasn't there a Hulu show about that and it ended in like George Wallace getting elected and making Vietnam much worse?
This is only good because MLK and JFK surviving means the FBI and the CIA were abolished respectively.
And the Twin Towers still standing implies the US kept the fuck out of the Middle East
Diana is the most baffling part of the image. At least most dead celebrities made art or music or whatever. Like imagine if Cobain lived to record more albums. Would be cool. Diana was basically famous for being famous.
At first I thought this was saying the good timeline was the one was US presidents, monarchs, Nazi blimps, capital, and the ROK were all destroyed.
Couldn’t quite fit MLK or Pan Am 103 into that interpretation though.
In a certain scifi book a guy saves JFK but that leads to a bad timeline where america nuked Vietnam and i think there's a dictator or something.
I read it a while ago, so maybe it was bullshit, also i'm not american so i don't know how likely the events depicted there were (probably very unlikely, but HOW unlikely???).
Also, i shall not name that book because that would be a spoiler, i guess.
Was it a comic book/graphic novel? Watchmen follows that plot essentially, minus the dictator. (Nixon gets 3 terms after JFK's 2, so almost as bad).
MLK is spinning 100 m/h in his grave right now :agony-deep:
Hey in some ways this is an improvement - at least shows are now admitting that there is a good timeline to go to, it used to be that the main timeline was defacto the 'good' one and the alternate one was always worse.
For a second I thought this was supposed to be one of those memes where a DPRK unified Korea was snuck in, but nope, it's all trash.
